| wolfspraul | wpwrak: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/USB_product_ID_assignments | 02:33 |
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| wolfspraul | I will now submit the update to linux-usb.org as you suggested | 02:50 |
| wolfspraul | I will use the description from the table in the wiki | 02:50 |
| wolfspraul | we can always update it later | 02:50 |
| B_Lizzard | Hi | 05:08 |
| B_Lizzard | I'm making a script for battery readings | 05:09 |
| B_Lizzard | I see that I can get a reading in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity but in what format is it? | 05:10 |
| qwebirc47789 | i have connected serial port to my PC at 115200 baud but getting garbage | 05:10 |
| qwebirc47789 | plz help | 05:10 |
| qwebirc47789 | I need to have serial port comm between nanonote and PC | 05:10 |
| B_Lizzard | It doesn't go over 100 so I guess it's a percentage but it fluctuates a lot. | 05:10 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: it's 57600 not 115200 | 05:15 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: also you need a ttl -- rs232 converter. | 05:16 |
| qwebirc47789 | i have tried 57600 also | 05:16 |
| qwebirc47789 | i have added ttl to 232 also | 05:16 |
| qwebirc47789 | flow control is none , databits -8 and stop bits 1 | 05:17 |
| qwebirc47789 | i have opened minicom on nanonote and using ttyS0 to transmit data to PC at 115200 baud but getting nothing on hyperterminal | 05:25 |
| qwebirc47789 | while on oscilloscope both TTL and 232 level , output is there | 05:25 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (submit to linux-usb) great ! | 05:27 |
| wolfspraul | yeah sorry it took so long | 05:28 |
| wolfspraul | you first mentioned it in late July :-) | 05:28 |
| wolfspraul | nice system they setup there with the mail robot etc. | 05:28 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: well, there's no rush :) (mail system) ah ? i never had anything to submit there | 05:33 |
| wolfspraul | you can just email a unified diff and that's it :-) | 05:33 |
| wpwrak | oh, finally a geek-friendly interface ;-) | 05:35 |
| qwebirc47789 | xiangfu plz help me | 05:41 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: hmm... | 05:41 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: are you use minicom in your PC? | 05:42 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: are you sure the ttl - rs232 works fine ? | 05:43 |
| qwebirc47789 | using minicom on nanonote and hyperterminal on winxp PC | 05:44 |
| qwebirc47789 | hwo to confirm that ttl - 232 is workign fine | 05:44 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc47789: you can connect the RX and TX pin. see if it can send all data back to you PC. | 05:51 |
| qwebirc47789 | ok | 05:52 |
| qwebirc47789 | loopback is workign fine | 05:59 |
| qwebirc47789 | actuall yI have used 7407 hex buffer to raise the output level to 5v | 05:59 |
| qwebirc47789 | aybody can help me with serial port | 06:08 |
| zyth | hola | 06:19 |
| B_Lizzard | Any idea on getting the current battery capacity in %? | 06:30 |
| B_Lizzard | I see that I can get a reading in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity but in what format is it? | 06:30 |
| B_Lizzard | It fluctuates a lot, leading me to believe that it's either not accurate or entirely incorrect. | 06:31 |
| larsc | capacity should be in percent | 06:34 |
| rafa | krafa | 07:11 |
| Textmode | ...whats the bit-width of the nanonote? | 09:23 |
| wolfspraul | bit-width? | 09:25 |
| wolfspraul | you mean the screen resolution? | 09:25 |
| Textmode | wolfspraul: the cpu architecture. | 09:26 |
| wolfspraul | don't know enough about the various buses | 09:31 |
| wolfspraul | the registers are 32-bit I would think | 09:31 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (buses) DRAM is 16 bit, NAND is 8 bit, uSD 4 bit. | 09:33 |
| Textmode | whats the size of the int type? probably the simplist answer. | 09:34 |
| wpwrak | Textmode: 32 bit | 09:35 |
| Textmode | thanks. | 09:36 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: solidify/README: some documentation http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/c8b0a51 | 13:00 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added the license (GPLv2+) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/7ea7db8 | 13:00 |
| maden | hey | 19:53 |
| maden | how long does a ben nanonote lasts with a full charge doing normal tasks? | 19:54 |
| kristianpaul | maden: what is normal task for you? | 21:23 |
| maden | talking on irc | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | from my experience around 5 hours with gmu | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | wait amin | 21:23 |
| maden | what about with no GUI | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | irc? | 21:23 |
| maden | CLI only | 21:23 |
| maden | yes chat on irc from the cli | 21:23 |
| kristianpaul | but using wich internet conection? | 21:23 |
| maden | micro SD card | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | ahh | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | good point | 21:24 |
| maden | lets say | 21:24 |
| maden | text editing in vi | 21:24 |
| maden | from cli | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | wifi pulls energy for sure even nomal tasks you do | 21:24 |
| maden | how long dyou think it could last | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | i cant estimate i dont have idea about wifi power consuption | 21:24 |
| maden | forget about wifi | 21:24 |
| maden | :p | 21:24 |
| kristianpaul | i cant | 21:25 |
| kristianpaul | you already said it | 21:25 |
| maden | put shades on I'm a men in black and I will flashs you | 21:25 |
| maden | how long do you think it can last doing vi editing | 21:25 |
| kristianpaul | hmm 3hrs? | 21:36 |
| kristianpaul | the screen on have costs | 21:36 |
| kristianpaul | s/screen/display | 21:36 |
| kristianpaul | Ben dont use ink display afaik wolfspraul ;) | 21:37 |
| maden | o | 21:38 |
| kristianpaul | maden: what is your measure by experience? | 21:40 |
| maden | m measure? | 21:44 |
| maden | my measure? | 21:44 |
| kristianpaul | about battery charge life | 21:46 |
| kristianpaul | how long you did vi editing with tyour ben? | 21:46 |
| maden | I don't own one | 21:46 |
| kristianpaul | ahh | 21:46 |
| maden | I'm thinking about maybe purchasing one in a near future | 21:46 |
| kristianpaul | i tought | 21:46 |
| kristianpaul | sure go ahead ! | 21:46 |
| maden | i'm jobless and broke ! | 21:46 |
| maden | and college books are expensive :( | 21:47 |
| kristianpaul | you now what is PDF for? ;) | 21:47 |
| kristianpaul | also a Ben is an intersting development platform | 21:47 |
| maden | my college uses the latest editions of books | 21:48 |
| maden | which is amazingly annoying | 21:48 |
| maden | instead of using version 8, they use version 9, so we can't buy it off people who used it the previous year | 21:48 |
| maden | it's amazingly sutpid | 21:48 |
| maden | but yeha I got a job interview at costco soon if I get the job I'm buying a nano note :P! | 21:49 |
| kristianpaul | indeed | 21:49 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 21:49 |
| kristianpaul | what you like most from the nanonote? | 21:49 |
| maden | fists in my pocket - hah | 21:50 |
| maden | fits* | 21:50 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 21:50 |
| maden | I already own a netbook but I'm growing tired of it | 21:50 |
| maden | it's old and weak | 21:50 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 21:58 |
| maden | you? | 21:59 |
| maden | why did you get one in the first place ? | 21:59 |
| kristianpaul | because is copyleft hardware movement | 22:05 |
| kristianpaul | i also ALWAYS wanted a free runnner | 22:05 |
| kristianpaul | but was toooo expensive | 22:05 |
| kristianpaul | and actually not so "open" as markenting said | 22:05 |
| kristianpaul | so.. | 22:05 |
| kristianpaul | i saw it in the 2009 in a blog | 22:06 |
| kristianpaul | dont remeneber wich one | 22:06 |
| kristianpaul | the pictures was really asware | 22:06 |
| maden | cool | 22:06 |
| maden | so you've had one for a while? | 22:06 |
| kristianpaul | qi something i remenberd tbut as time pass i forgot, until a friend tell me about qi-hardware and then WOW is real :) | 22:07 |
| kristianpaul | a while some moths | 22:07 |
| kristianpaul | 3-4 mpoths ago | 22:08 |
| wolfspraul | maden: kristianpaul is a core Qi member now, for sure. He's doing a lot of case hacking with his 3D printer, and GPS (more coming in the future), and he's interested in Milkymist too. In everything actually, it seems :-) | 22:18 |
| maden | oh | 22:19 |
| kristianpaul | well not so everithing but Milkymist is awesome ! | 22:20 |
| kristianpaul | and ben is cheap and hackable so.. | 22:21 |
| kristianpaul | the case well is easy | 22:22 |
| kristianpaul | is not so advanced figure | 22:22 |
| kristianpaul | and well the floss 3D printing is there so why not use it ;) | 22:23 |
| kristianpaul | maden: so.. , join us, all this is getting fun :) | 22:24 |
| maden | i might i might :p | 22:25 |
| maden | it seems very interesting i must admit | 22:25 |
| maden | what'S milkymist? | 22:27 |
| kristianpaul | a Sytem on Chip copyleft platform | 22:28 |
| wolfspraul | maden: a free (gpl licensed) CPU | 22:28 |
| kristianpaul | also a VJ sation | 22:28 |
| wolfspraul | basically a replacement for Intel/AMD/ARM/MIPS | 22:28 |
| maden | ohh | 22:28 |
| maden | my knowledge of hardware is so very limited | 22:29 |
| maden | it's far from being a field of interest of mine, unfortunately | 22:29 |
| kristianpaul | what about software? | 22:29 |
| wolfspraul | maden: what are you interested in? | 22:29 |
| maden | software! | 22:29 |
| maden | i dont know MUCH about it but I'm very interested in programming | 22:30 |
| wolfspraul | well, pick a small problem that relates to your real life, and solve it with cool free software :-) | 22:32 |
| wolfspraul | that's going to be hard enough... | 22:32 |
| wolfspraul | if you like the portability of the Ben, go get one and try to solve the problem there. There are several starting points for software development on the Ben, I think the best are OpenWrt and Jlime, some people might say Debian but I think the device is a bit too constrained for Debian. | 22:33 |
| maden | what languages are supported by openwrt ? | 22:33 |
| maden | obviously C but what else? | 22:33 |
| kristianpaul | lua | 22:34 |
| maden | i heard about that | 22:34 |
| kristianpaul | QT | 22:34 |
| maden | obviously ! :) | 22:34 |
| kristianpaul | SDL | 22:34 |
| kristianpaul | python | 22:34 |
| maden | python ? | 22:34 |
| maden | oh yeahhh | 22:34 |
| kristianpaul | thats for what i read things made | 22:34 |
| kristianpaul | gforth too | 22:35 |
| maden | I might just get a nanonote and mess around with python | 22:35 |
| maden | that would be a cool agenda | 22:35 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 22:35 |
| maden | much more useful than this huge hard-cover agenda I've got right now | 22:35 |
| maden | I wish I had C lessons in college, instead of java :( | 22:37 |
| kristianpaul | ben is a starting point | 22:38 |
| kristianpaul | for example in jlime you can install gcc easilly | 22:38 |
| kristianpaul | and vi(m) of course | 22:38 |
| kristianpaul | so you're done :) | 22:38 |
| kristianpaul | ah thats not all | 22:38 |
| maden | it would be an amazing linux experience too | 22:39 |
| kristianpaul | you have multi tasking | 22:39 |
| maden | thats cool | 22:39 |
| kristianpaul | so you can have a console in one side and vim in the other | 22:39 |
| maden | hah better keep your lines short, or font very small ! | 22:39 |
| maden | it must be hardcore coding on a such small keyboard, no? | 22:40 |
| kristianpaul | thats up to you | 22:40 |
| kristianpaul | maden: http://www.jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/nanonote/muffinman | 22:41 |
| kristianpaul | an the bottom there are some screen captures | 22:41 |
| maden | how exactly do you install a different OS on the nanonote? | 22:42 |
| maden | ah i just saw the installation instruction page | 22:42 |
| kristianpaul | uSD or NAND | 22:42 |
| kristianpaul | or both | 22:42 |
| maden | I guess once you get your ben it's openwrt installed? | 22:42 |
| kristianpaul | yup | 22:43 |
| maden | and you don'T want that? | 22:43 |
| kristianpaul | i like that | 22:43 |
| kristianpaul | i just want some things else like jlime | 22:43 |
| maden | ok I get your point | 22:43 |
| kristianpaul | openwrt is really stable | 22:44 |
| kristianpaul | and jlime have a bunch of software | 22:44 |
| maden | ok | 22:44 |
| kristianpaul | maden: how do you found the nanonote? | 22:44 |
| maden | how I found out about it? | 22:45 |
| maden | I'm not exactly sure, I heard about it ages ago. I think it was on slashdot | 22:45 |
| wolfspraul | ah we need more blog coverage... | 22:46 |
| maden | I don't own a blog | 22:46 |
| maden | I don't even read blogs | 22:46 |
| maden | I don't know any interesting blogs | 22:46 |
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