#qi-hardware IRC log for Thursday, 2010-08-26

uncloudedxiangfu: try this one: http://amadeus.dist.ro/nightsky_20100823-1_xburst.ipk00:01
xiangfuunclouded: ok. then I will let you know the message. hmm.. it's will at 1:30 PM. I need leave for awhile.00:03
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: DC-DC 1.2 and 3.3 routed http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/0f191b600:03
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: ben-bottom-nobat-100um data files. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/cd3a3b900:23
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: ben-bottom-inside2-* data files. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/827c70500:23
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: ben-kbd-bottom, 1mm and 500 um data. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/988d3f401:07
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: Index page update for recent completions. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/42f6a9901:13
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: usb device connector added http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/9118b6b01:43
uncloudedkyak, did you get to the bottom of the nightsky build issue?  looks like xiangfu might have the same issue03:34
kyakunclouded: no, didn't have even a small chance to get to it during last two days03:40
kyakbut i remember, i'll try it as soon as i can03:41
kyakat last, qt4 builds03:54
ctsDoes anyone happen to know which "make menuconfig"-entry I forgot to check when OpenWRT hangs at boot "cannot find init"? I have checked busybox and the filesystem-libs and modules, but no avail so far.07:00
kyakinit is a part of busybox, if i'm not mistaken07:02
kyakjust take the default config for starters07:02
ctsthat's what I'm doing right now (might take a while, I had to "make clean" first. As I said, including busybox did not help... :(07:02
ctsSo I came to think about missing filesystem modules (I am trying to srip my nano down to only what I need), but apparently I have gone a bit too far... ;)07:03
kyakmaybe this is what you need? :)07:04
kyakwhat are you stripping btw? i usually only add things to it :)07:05
kyakalso, what's the point of stripping when you got 2 Gb?07:05
kyaki remember stripping things when i built openwrt for my linksys wrt54gl07:06
kyakunclouded: i'm now trying to build nightsky without rpath-link, it won't compile07:26
orly_owlwolfspra1l: What about a PS/2 keyboard? Won't that just need the controller chip?09:24
wpwrakhmm, suse know something about marketing ... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Body_painting.JPG09:28
wpwrakorly_owl: (ps/2) and a shovel, to dig the the layer where such prehistoric items are buried :)09:29
wpwraks/the the/to the/09:29
orly_owlUSB then :p09:33
wpwrakhmph. "rules of thumb for microwave design", it's easy - there are only 100 of them :-( http://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedia/rulesofthumb.cfm11:25
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf/ecn/ecn0002.txt: added measurements after making boards use 12 pF and http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/fe8bdac14:50
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: More RF research for the ECNs (balun and layout) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/2406f6714:50
qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: Disable CLKM in atspi-txrx, to reduce interferences. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/078ec8714:50
uncloudedkyak, I've always used rpath-link.  it doesn't seem to work without it.  why are you trying to compile without it?15:14
kyakunclouded: it doesn't compile unless i add TARGET_LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-rpath-link=$(STAGING_DIR)/usr/lib in Makefile15:15
uncloudedare you building this from openwrt-xburst?15:16
uncloudedas in: make package/nightsky/install ?15:16
uncloudedthat's weird because the only line in the upstream Makefile that refers to LDFLAGS already has rpath-link on it15:29
uncloudedyour solution of putting it in the OpenWRT Makefile is much tidier though15:29
uncloudedkyak, sorry for all the trouble you've had building nightsky.  I think I found the problem in the upstream Makefile15:55
qi-bot[commit] Neil Stockbridge: Nightsky now refers to a less broken upstream version and -rpath-link has moved to the OpenWRT Makefile http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5327b0716:49
tuxbrain2wpwrak: I have a little precious jewel rafa has given to me :)16:51
tuxbrain2wpwrak, I'm really busy right now finishing the classroom of the Den, but when I can breath and if I have not felt sleep exhausted then , I will put the idbg(or whatever is called :P) in one NN :)16:55
virictuxbrain2: what Den?16:59
tuxbrain2well I have only post the news in spanish , and I know you understand it :) http://www.tuxbrain.net/content/tuxbrains-den-la-guarida-de-tuxbrain17:01
viricI've been taught Spanish against may will, so... :)17:02
viric5h l'hora? està prou bé!17:03
wpwraktuxbrain2: hey, cool ! so the lazy bastard didn't install it for you ? ;-)17:04
tuxbrain2hehehe we have not in the right place to do so, to many beers jars in the bar table :P17:04
tuxbrain2you will see the pics when rafa share them :)17:05
virictuxbrain2: have you bee in Argentina? I somehow imagine he lives there. I may have read something about this.17:06
kristianpaulseems idbg is taking the world17:06
viricWhat is idbg for?17:06
wpwrakkristianpaul: world domination, fast ! :)17:06
wpwrakviric: it gives you serial console, remote reset, and remote control of usb boot, all this via USB17:07
virichm ok17:07
wpwrakgoes discreetly into the ben: http://www.almesberger.net/misc/ben/idbg-v1-case.jpg17:08
viricI remember the pictures17:08
viricUntil your explanation, I did not understand what was it for :)17:08
viricHow about emulators for the ben? Are there any?17:09
viricI mean to emulate the Ben in a PC, let's say.17:09
viricas people use qemu for17:11
kristianpaulsorry i misunderstood17:12
kristianpauli think there is qemu or a Xburst version17:13
kristianpaulnot sure wich17:13
kristianpaullook xbusrt in code.g00gle.com17:13
virickristianpaul: http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/qemu-JZ.git   thank you17:16
kristianpaulhope is usefull four you17:17
viricI was just curious; by now I have a ben, which may run faster than the emulator17:18
kristianpaulsure it will :)17:19
wpwrakhmm ... given a set of pixel-based images (not vector-based), how to put them into a web-browseable format that implies a container ? besides creating a directory and placing the individual files inside, of course17:56
wpwrakps and the like have the problem that they try to scale. so the pixels will come out wrong.17:57
wpwrak"implies container" -> must be possible to browse through them with any common web browser. a cyclic "next" or "next"/"prev" would be plenty.17:58
wpwrakof, and all this without flash ;-)17:58
uncloudedwpwrak: I have a short ( 82 line) Ruby script to present a set of images if you're interested.  It creates an HTML file for each image that embeds the image along with Prev and Next links to other images in the set18:02
wpwrakunclouded: how do prev/next work ? link to html page ? javascript ?18:03
uncloudedlink to html page18:03
uncloudedvery primitive.  here's an example: http://amadeus.dist.ro/~neil/wpwrak/18:04
wpwrakah, okay. that's what i'd like to avoid.18:04
wpwraklooks nice, though :) if all else fails, i'll do something like this.18:05
wpwrak(it's all part of a big schematics-diff generator)18:05
uncloudedsuper simple.  The script is here in case you decide to hack something from it: http://amadeus.dist.ro/~neil/wpwrak/present18:06
wpwrakunclouded: thanks !18:07
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: FAN4010 added http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/108e96320:33
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: MLP6 footprint added http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/148559e21:26
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: FAN4010 initial placement http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/16558b021:26
qi-bot[commit] Andres Calderon: fix http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/a06de4c22:11
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: move all reflash scripts to reflash/ folder http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/80e8ce922:37
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: add nightsky http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4f7ca2b23:30
kristianpauljust to give an idea http://paste.debian.net/8608923:36
kristianpaulgn8 !23:36
wpwrakkristianpaul: done with a piece of wire, a diode, and a shell script ? :)23:39
kristianpaulwpwrak: nah just simulation23:40
kristianpaulbut the ben should do that that and faster !23:40
kristianpaulwpwrak: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/GPS_Open_Stack23:41
Action: kristianpaul zZzZ23:41
qi-bot[commit] Xiangfu Liu: add TestADC file http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/b672b6c23:46
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