| kyak | unclouded: hi! does sound in freedroid also work for you? | 01:17 |
|---|---|---|
| unclouded | kyak: haven't tried enabling swap to try it yet. strange as I thought SDL was supposed to stream music so I don't know why it needs so much memory | 01:30 |
| unclouded | but all the other sounds work. only the title music doesn't | 01:31 |
| kyak | hm, all the other sound didn't work for me before.. | 01:52 |
| kyak | but ok, right now it seems to work.. just needs someone else to confirm :) | 01:52 |
| mth | SDL can stream audio, but it's up to the app to load the audio in small parts instead of loading the entire file into memory | 01:53 |
| unclouded | mth: so Mix_LoadMUS won't cut it then? | 03:00 |
| mth | that's from SDL_Mixer, not SDL itself; I'm not familiar with that lib | 03:01 |
| mth | "load" suggests it loads everything into memory, but check the API docs to be sure | 03:01 |
| bartbes | mth: well, it's missing some scripts, the program itself runs | 05:33 |
| bartbes | xiangfu: so why is scummvm broken? | 09:40 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Carlos Camargo: Fix some errors on silkscreen layer http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/6c92e79 | 10:01 |
| xiangfu | bartbes: Hi. if there is some errors when compile. I will just mark it as BROKEN. | 10:04 |
| xiangfu | bartbes: now I am compiling it again. | 10:04 |
| bartbes | thanks! | 10:05 |
| xiangfu | bartbes: it give me "openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:201: error: comma at end of enumerator list" | 10:05 |
| bartbes | but.. that'd seem to be an error in one of the libs? | 10:05 |
| Action: bartbes spotted the error in the header | 10:07 | |
| Action: bartbes checks the alsa package | 10:07 | |
| larsc | its a feature of newer gcc versions to complain about such "errors" in strict c99 mode | 10:08 |
| bartbes | ;) | 10:08 |
| bartbes | it's not a bug it's a feature | 10:08 |
| bartbes | as always | 10:08 |
| larsc | oh wait, it's c89 | 10:09 |
| larsc | in c99 it is valid | 10:09 |
| bartbes | nice | 10:09 |
| bartbes | but then | 10:09 |
| larsc | maybe CFLAGS+=-std=gnu99 would work | 10:09 |
| bartbes | I guess it's a simple compile-time option | 10:09 |
| bartbes | yeah, that | 10:09 |
| xiangfu | larsc: I will try to add it and compile again :) | 10:10 |
| Action: xiangfu recompiling scummvm now. | 10:12 | |
| larsc | hm... scummvm seems to be written in cpp | 10:15 |
| bartbes | oh that | 10:15 |
| bartbes | if you do find a solution | 10:15 |
| bartbes | please tell me | 10:15 |
| bartbes | because I needed --std=gnu99 in a c++ app as well (lua's lnum) | 10:16 |
| larsc | well, we could patch scummvms configure to not append -pedantic to its CXXFLAGS | 10:17 |
| larsc | hm, calling configure with --disable-Werror should work aswell | 10:17 |
| xiangfu | Running ScummVM configure... | 10:22 |
| xiangfu | error: unrecognised option: --disable-Werror | 10:22 |
| larsc | hm | 10:26 |
| larsc | ah, I see in c++ it's even an error without -Werror | 10:27 |
| larsc | so you have to patch configure to not append -pedantic | 10:28 |
| xiangfu | larsc: yes. just found that. | 10:30 |
| xiangfu | case $_host_os in | 10:30 |
| xiangfu | gamecube | psp | wii) | 10:30 |
| xiangfu | ;; | 10:30 |
| xiangfu | *) | 10:30 |
| xiangfu | CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -pedantic" | 10:30 |
| viric | HMm I'll ask again about the kernel - sorry, but I still did not understand | 11:01 |
| viric | THe openwrt-burst has patches over 2.6.32 to build the uImage | 11:01 |
| viric | But the kernel branches at qi-hardware don't have the Makefiles patched to build the uImage | 11:01 |
| viric | right? | 11:02 |
| larsc | correct | 11:16 |
| lekernel | http://events.ccc.de/2010/07/30/27c3-we-come-in-%20peace-call-for-participation/ | 11:26 |
| Action: kristianpaul too sooon :( | 11:30 | |
| lekernel | ? | 11:30 |
| kristianpaul | 27c3 is this december right? | 11:31 |
| larsc | yes | 11:31 |
| larsc | xxc3 is always 27-30 december | 11:31 |
| kristianpaul | yeah too soon for to arrange VISA, tickets adn try to go to lekernel workshop :( | 11:32 |
| lekernel | huh? | 11:32 |
| kristianpaul | larsc: oh, i just discover this event last year :) | 11:32 |
| lekernel | how long does it take you to get a visa? | 11:32 |
| kristianpaul | in varies | 11:32 |
| kristianpaul | s/in/it | 11:32 |
| kristianpaul | 3 weeks orless | 11:33 |
| lekernel | lol | 11:33 |
| lekernel | it's in fucking december | 11:33 |
| lekernel | you have plenty of time for your visa | 11:33 |
| kristianpaul | well yes, i need the money first ;) | 11:33 |
| kristianpaul | also tickets, acomodation... | 11:34 |
| tuxbrain_mobile | hey what where the magic words to redirect pages on the wiki? | 13:01 |
| larsc | #redirect | 13:02 |
| larsc | #redirect [[other page]] | 13:02 |
| lekernel | kristianpaul, as in every travel | 13:16 |
| sdschulze | Hi -- are those USB gender changers you can buy only pieces of plugs and wire or do they really have two controllers inside?! | 13:16 |
| kristianpaul | lekernel: sure :) | 13:17 |
| kristianpaul | i just complain more that the ususal :) | 13:18 |
| sdschulze | In other words, shouldn't it be possible to "tunnel" USB host traffic over a USB device, which itself acts as a host towards the actual device (like the NIC)? | 13:32 |
| nebajoth | theory sounds good | 13:32 |
| nebajoth | but I doubt the gender changes have controllers inside | 13:32 |
| nebajoth | citation needed | 13:33 |
| sdschulze | They're actually too cheap for this. :) | 13:33 |
| sdschulze | And it would require Linux driver support. | 13:33 |
| sdschulze | If someone already wrote a kind of driver for this, we would be a step further. | 13:34 |
| Action: sdschulze imagines two AVRs, both acting as hosts and talking to each other via a UART or something. | 13:35 | |
| sdschulze | Do you have an idea how the USB host controller is implemented in the development board? | 13:36 |
| sdschulze | Does the JZ47xx have it on-chip? | 13:36 |
| sdschulze | http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Jz4720diagram.jpg | 13:39 |
| sdschulze | Hm, there is a double arrow to the USB host. | 13:39 |
| sdschulze | Does this mean "outside" the chip? | 13:39 |
| viric | Hmmm what means that UBIFS says "scrubbed PEB 383 (LEB 0:381), data moved to PEB 1634 | 13:40 |
| viric | Anything wrong with the flash? | 13:40 |
| viric | larsc: how can I, then, make the uImage for the kernel 2.6.34 in qi-hardware? Do I have to put the load addresses and all that by hand? What do you (kernel developers) use to build those, a not-public script? | 13:42 |
| viric | larsc: I don't find the mkimage parameters trivial :) | 13:43 |
| viric | larsc: and even less trivial those of zImage | 13:43 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Carlos Camargo: Adding SAKC logo http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/f22d66d | 13:44 |
| nebajoth | viric: you don't need to be alarmed by those messages | 13:45 |
| nebajoth | its wear-levelling | 13:45 |
| nebajoth | all flash does it | 13:45 |
| nebajoth | at least all flash with wear levelling | 13:45 |
| viric | nebajoth: ah. I don't even know what does that mean | 13:48 |
| nebajoth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling | 13:49 |
| viric | How much I have to care about writing into the nanonote? | 13:49 |
| nebajoth | none | 13:50 |
| viric | ah ok | 13:50 |
| viric | I'm doing some OS tests, and then I end up copying megabytes :) | 13:50 |
| viric | and as I'm having troubles with the first sector of the nand... | 13:51 |
| sdschulze | viric: Don't you build from OpenWRT? | 14:12 |
| sdschulze | nebajoth: Oh, OK, the USB stuff is inside the SoC. | 14:19 |
| larsc | viric: i'm using plain openwrt | 14:20 |
| sdschulze | There are ways to tunnel USB over PCI, why wouldn't it be possible to tunnel USB over USB? | 14:22 |
| sdschulze | I'd be almost surprised if that hadn't been done already. | 14:22 |
| sdschulze | [Any kernel hackers here?] | 14:22 |
| viric | sdschulze: no | 14:26 |
| viric | larsc: then you apply those patches in openwrt for 2.6.32 to your tree of 2.6.34? | 14:26 |
| larsc | viric: no. in openwrt are patches for 2.6.35 | 14:27 |
| viric | ah | 14:32 |
| viric | m | 14:32 |
| viric | those patches are to be put over the qi-hardware 2.6.35 branch, or over the mainline 2.6.35? | 14:32 |
| viric | target/linux/generic-2.6 contains patches until 2.6.34 I think | 14:33 |
| larsc | i'm talking about https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk | 14:36 |
| viric | hm I was looking at the openwrt git repository in qi-hardware. Is that obsolete? | 14:40 |
| larsc | nope | 14:40 |
| larsc | its stable | 14:40 |
| larsc | more or less | 14:40 |
| viric | ah, the development goes in the openwrt trunk? | 14:40 |
| larsc | yes | 14:40 |
| viric | aaaaah | 14:40 |
| viric | Sorry for asking that much. I don't know how to get that information other than asking :) | 14:40 |
| viric | thank you | 14:41 |
| viric | is there anything in that stable git repository that is not in the openwrt trunk? | 14:41 |
| viric | and does the openwrt trunk even have patches for mplayer, for example? | 14:41 |
| larsc | there might be some qi specific patches in there. | 14:42 |
| larsc | but i'm not sure | 14:42 |
| larsc | qi related packages are in the openwrt-packages repo at projects.qi-hardware | 14:43 |
| viric | ok | 14:44 |
| viric | they are not in openwrt trunk then | 14:44 |
| larsc | correct | 14:44 |
| viric | nice | 14:44 |
| viric | there I don't see anything about mplayer | 14:45 |
| viric | wasn't there some code for the SIMD instructions of the xburst? | 14:46 |
| viric | or that is already in mplayer mailine? | 14:46 |
| sdschulze | re | 15:32 |
| sdschulze | My shitty Taiwanese computer had a hard lock-up... | 15:32 |
| sdschulze | Actually, building a host that can handle two RNDIS devices shouldn't be *too* hard. | 15:35 |
| sdschulze | Would there be demand? :) | 15:55 |
| nebajoth | yup | 15:56 |
| nebajoth | as long as it was cheap | 15:56 |
| nebajoth | :P | 15:56 |
| sdschulze | Hehe | 15:58 |
| sdschulze | I just thought that the appearance of the Ya would make it superfluous immediatly. | 15:59 |
| sdschulze | Hm, strange, my computer says the NanoNote is RNDIS, but itself, it claims to be ECM. | 16:00 |
| sdschulze | For owners of the devboard, it is already superfluous. | 16:03 |
| sdschulze | Hm, couldn't you even get the USB 1.1 out of the NanoNote with a tiny bit of hardware hacking? | 16:04 |
| sdschulze | ??? | 16:16 |
| sdschulze | Pins 106 and 107 are totally unconnected in the NanoNote. | 16:17 |
| sdschulze | In the devboard, they go out quite directly from the case. | 16:17 |
| sdschulze | The only thing added is a 5V voltage source. | 16:17 |
| sdschulze | Are there *any* objections to using those pins? | 16:18 |
| SiENcE | hi | 16:37 |
| wpwrak | tuxbrain: 8 counterweights are already cast. only the paint is missing. | 17:04 |
| wpwrak | rafa: diego is now working on the others :) | 17:04 |
| rafa | wpwrak: cool!.. he could add some art to the solderings perhaps ;) | 18:21 |
| wpwrak | rafa: at them moment, he's adding artful air pockets :) | 18:22 |
| rafa | wpwrak: visitors here.. really busy days :P | 18:23 |
| tuxbrain | sdschulze: Bas has answered you on the list, believe him. No way | 18:24 |
| wpwrak | tuxbrain: naw, let him try. more sales and maybe a technological breakthrough :) | 18:26 |
| tuxbrain | wpwrak: then you have 80% of a beer earned | 18:26 |
| tuxbrain | wpwrak: We are big enough to hire, I want you as my costumer relationship manager :P | 18:27 |
| wpwrak | (beer) we're at 10 now. i'm making a new cast, though. the old one is looking a bit charred. had already more than 20 cycles. | 18:27 |
| wpwrak | tuxbrain: what was previously known as the customers complaint department ? :) | 18:28 |
| tuxbrain | yeah but complaint doesn't sound cool | 18:28 |
| bartbes | so now your customers don't complain, they relate to you | 18:28 |
| bartbes | much better | 18:28 |
| wpwrak | they re-late to you and and you can be-rate them back :) | 18:29 |
| tuxbrain | costumer care, post-sales, hotline, costumer assistance, support.... euphemistic names for the old well know complaint department | 18:31 |
| bartbes | costumer care | 18:31 |
| bartbes | heh | 18:31 |
| bartbes | "Take care of the customers" | 18:31 |
| Action: bartbes gets knife | 18:32 | |
| bartbes | or ehm | 18:32 |
| bartbes | "Day care was closed" "Are you a customer?" "Yes" "Then come in!" | 18:32 |
| tuxbrain | hey I forget the FOSS euphemistic one: Track list :P | 18:34 |
| tuxbrain | larsc: or of course any one else. | 18:46 |
| tuxbrain | where I can download the 2.6.36 kernel with our code there in a tarball | 18:47 |
| wpwrak | larsc: do you have an AVT2 ? | 18:47 |
| tuxbrain | I have no intentions to compile (yet) but I want to do some good header picture for the post announcing it | 18:48 |
| larsc | tuxbrain: i don't think there is a tarbal yet | 18:49 |
| larsc | wpwrak: yes | 18:49 |
| tuxbrain | any way to achive the source code without the git control files? | 18:50 |
| wpwrak | larsc: USB host is available then, i guess ? (haven't tried anything myself yet. just wondering, seeing all those cries for help on the list) | 18:51 |
| larsc | wpwrak: yes it does work | 18:51 |
| wpwrak | larsc: kewl. thanks ! | 18:52 |
| larsc | tuxbrain: rm them ;) | 18:53 |
| tuxbrain | touche!, can you giveme give me the git order to checkout it? | 18:54 |
| larsc | git clone it://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git | 18:56 |
| trebuchet | my mom is calling my cat sexy | 18:56 |
| trebuchet | wrong channel | 18:56 |
| larsc | tuxbrain: `make tarbz2-pkg` builds an archive for the kernel source | 18:56 |
| larsc | tuxbrain: see `make help` | 18:56 |
| tuxbrain | thanks ! | 18:57 |
| tuxbrain | once I make the image I will ask you for help to localize our piece of code on it :) | 18:57 |
| wpwrak | larsc: so absolutely everything is upstream now ? | 18:57 |
| larsc | wpwrak: no. i did not submit the usb gadget driver and the driver for the lcm, because they need some more cleanup | 19:00 |
| larsc | wpwrak: and not all trees have been merged by linus. sound for example is still missing | 19:01 |
| tuxbrain | 20%=225Mb so 100% arround 1.1Gb, wow | 19:04 |
| tuxbrain | ehem that why you have to wait until the end "only" 377.43 MiB of c code... | 19:06 |
| Action: zednano ircing from nano in bed with wifi | 19:10 | |
| tuxbrain | zednano: :) go to sleep and stop doing the freak also in bed dude :) | 19:12 |
| Action: tuxbrain envy zednano | 19:12 | |
| zednano | tuxbrain trying to justify spending crazy amount on the wifi card | 19:14 |
| zednano | works well tho for irc | 19:14 |
| tuxbrain | hehehe sleeping with it can be way yes.... | 19:14 |
| Action: zednano grins at tuxbrain | 19:18 | |
| wpwrak | larsc: pretty close then. nice. | 19:34 |
| tuxbrain | FYI, I'm trying to make a kernel diagram of the 2.6.36 kernel like this one http://fcgp.sourceforge.net/images/lgp-total.png, and then localize our piece of code on it :) | 19:37 |
| tuxbrain | the script seems to run fine , let's see the results | 19:37 |
| tuxbrain | but I think I will go to sleep and see results tomorow good night | 19:40 |
| wpwrak | tuxbrain_zzz: btw, any color preferences for the counterweight ? default color will be black | 19:41 |
| tuxbrain_zzz | yes I think black is the right choise | 19:41 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Werner Almesberger: Improved the mold for better yield. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-counterweight/e910ea0 | 19:41 |
| wolfspraul | andres_calderon: hey Andres :-) | 22:29 |
| andres_calderon | hey Wolfgang | 22:30 |
| wolfspraul | werner is wpwrak | 22:30 |
| wolfspraul | he lives in Buenos Aires and speaks Spanish :-) | 22:30 |
| andres_calderon | nice, Werner is online? is OK to speak Spanish in this channel? | 22:32 |
| wolfspraul | of course why not in Spanish? | 22:33 |
| wolfspraul | I don't know whether he is online | 22:33 |
| wolfspraul | but he will definitely see it later | 22:33 |
| andres_calderon | for consistency in the historical record... | 22:34 |
| andres_calderon | We need a "Lars" for LM32 :) | 22:35 |
| wpwrak | he's online and speaks spanish so-so but writes it really poorly :) | 22:36 |
| wolfspraul | ok maybe I oversell you :-) | 22:36 |
| andres_calderon | I think I can help to support the kernel. But I prefer to work in HDL. | 22:37 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: Andres is the guy behind the Xue camera, a camera around the Milkymist SoC | 22:37 |
| wolfspraul | he tried to do it entirely in KiCad (schematics + layout) | 22:37 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: btw, you'll like this: ti also have a 2.45 GHz compliance-with-regulations document ;-) | 22:37 |
| andres_calderon | hi Werner, como está, mi ingles es bastante malo.. | 22:37 |
| wpwrak | andres_calderon: and, how did things go with kicad ? | 22:37 |
| roh | i wonder whats the documentation/foss situation with the wilink wifi from ti (used in n900 and so) | 22:39 |
| wpwrak | andres_calderon: quizas la solucion seria que vos escribis en castellano y yo en ingles :) | 22:39 |
| wpwrak | roh: "this product is for high-volume customers [...]", something in that sense | 22:39 |
| wpwrak | roh: or, "go away, plebs !" :) | 22:39 |
| andres_calderon | I am just learning to use kicad. I am a "Orcad man" | 22:40 |
| andres_calderon | Bien Werner | 22:40 |
| wpwrak | andres_calderon: kicad still misses lots of things, but some people have succeeded to do complex projects with it | 22:41 |
| wpwrak | s/misses/lacks/ | 22:42 |
| roh | wpwrak i see.. too bad. their drivers seem to work properly ;) | 22:42 |
| roh | WL1251 | 22:42 |
| andres_calderon | wpwrak el hecho de que todo es un archivo de texto es muy útil, eso me gusta.. | 22:42 |
| wpwrak | andres_calderon: yes ! and my scripts ! :) | 22:42 |
| andres_calderon | wpwrak hay uno monton de problemas de usabilidad.... pero poder usar script da mucho poder | 22:43 |
| andres_calderon | wpwrak solo he escrito un par de scripts en python, ahora puedo generar componentes a partir de archivos de Xilinx y de archivos de simulación IBIS | 22:45 |
| andres_calderon | wpwrak i am using the fped, is very interesting. | 22:49 |
| wpwrak | sorry ... a bit of an interruption ... visitor ... | 23:09 |
| wolfspraul | emeb|mac: hey, early rise? :-) | 23:54 |
| wolfspraul | it's a good coincidence, Andres Calderon the founder of the Xue project is also here - andres_calderon | 23:55 |
| andres_calderon | wpwrak Do You know the Topological Autorouter project for PCB Geda? http://anthonix.resnet.scms.waikato.ac.nz/toporouter/ | 23:55 |
| andres_calderon | hi emeb|mac | 23:56 |
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