| --- Sun Aug 1 2010 | 00:00 | |
| unclouded | hey can I get commit to the openwrt-packages project? I've got a port of Freedroid to upload | 04:12 |
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| wolfspraul | unclouded: sure you can! | 04:16 |
| wolfspraul | do you have an account on projects? | 04:16 |
| unclouded | yes, by the same name: unclouded | 04:16 |
| wolfspraul | if you commit something, I can also test the new commitlog scripts :-) | 04:16 |
| unclouded | ok, maybe I should commit it one file at a time then ;-) | 04:17 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded: thanks for asking, I added you as member to openwrt-xburst and openwrt-packages | 04:18 |
| wolfspraul | you need to upload your ssh public key, then it should work... | 04:18 |
| unclouded | I think I remember uploading my key. I must have if Ive committed to other projects, right? | 04:18 |
| wolfspraul | hmm | 04:19 |
| wolfspraul | not sure whether it is shared across all projects or not | 04:19 |
| wolfspraul | maybe | 04:19 |
| wolfspraul | just try, you should not be able to easily break something on the server :- | 04:20 |
| wolfspraul | :-) | 04:20 |
| bartbes | *crack* | 04:20 |
| wolfspraul | that must have been the heads of the second mirrored hdd | 04:20 |
| bartbes | probably | 04:21 |
| unclouded | thanks for the access! I'll say so just before I commit | 04:22 |
| wolfspraul | zear: hi zear! | 04:23 |
| zear | hey wolfspraul | 04:23 |
| wolfspraul | I was playing with eggdrop a bit, improving a few things | 04:23 |
| zear | ah, so you can finally remove my nick from logging? :D | 04:23 |
| wolfspraul | one sec | 04:23 |
| wolfspraul | back then you told me you didn't like that the IP would get logged | 04:24 |
| zear | ah, yes | 04:24 |
| wolfspraul | which I can kind of understand, plus it doesn't provide any value to others | 04:24 |
| zear | yes, because they can always do /who to get his whereabouts anyway | 04:24 |
| wolfspraul | so since I reviewed this eggdrop monster a bit more now, I realized the log flags were 'jpk' | 04:24 |
| wolfspraul | j = joins, parts, etc. k = kicks, bans, etc. | 04:24 |
| wolfspraul | so actually I think all we need is 'p' | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | the public messages | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | so for now, I changed the log settings to 'p', which in my theory means the IP addresses won't get logged anymore, because the join and part messages are not logged | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | that's a small step forward I think | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | :-) | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | now I am wondering whether I should go over the entire archives and strip out all such 'j' and 'k' messages as well? | 04:26 |
| wolfspraul | what value does it have that we remember who and when people joined and left? | 04:26 |
| wolfspraul | I think all we care about is the actual content of the messages, i.e. actual public messages | 04:26 |
| wolfspraul | zear: what do you think? | 04:26 |
| zear | i think stripping the actual logs from joins and kicks is a good idea | 04:27 |
| zear | though google had enough time to cache them already ;) | 04:27 |
| wolfspraul | one by one | 04:27 |
| wolfspraul | yes I know but it's never too late to improve :-) | 04:28 |
| zear | i agree | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | so first of all - you agree that going forward, removing the 'j' and 'k' log types does not remove any value, right? | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | I mean I don't see any value... | 04:28 |
| zear | yes, there's no point logging them | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | ok, next question is whether I should also retro-actively strip them from the archives | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | I lean towards doing that, but I'm always careful about censoring/removing data... | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | but in this case, same as for future logs, I don't see the value | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | it's just junk! | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | and lots of IP addresses as you said correctly | 04:29 |
| zear | why not, they are all in a similar form: nick(~nick@ip) has joined #channel | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | shall we purge the junk? | 04:29 |
| zear | should be rather easy to set up a script removing these lines | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | yes sure, it's not a technical problem | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | I just don't want to go through the archives purge stuff unilaterally | 04:30 |
| zear | wolfspraul, make a copy | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | I feel this is a community server and I respect that the data is owned by everybody... | 04:30 |
| zear | in case people want them back | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | ok, easy | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | that would be a very exotic wish anyway, I really cannot imagine what the value of these log lines could be | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | already, so after the copy we purge them? | 04:31 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: backgammon of bsd-games http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/48e547c | 04:31 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: backgammon of bsd-games http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d696302 | 04:31 |
| zear | the purpose of public logs should be easy access to precious informations about the nanonote, and not easy access to personal data ;) | 04:31 |
| wolfspraul | totally agree with you | 04:31 |
| zear | so i say purge the already existing logs | 04:31 |
| wolfspraul | that's why I was happy today to realize that we can improve something | 04:32 |
| wolfspraul | alright, will do. backup copy first. | 04:32 |
| bartbes | I agree, it's just so you can look up what was said | 04:33 |
| bartbes | say, wolfspraul tells you how to do something, you forget, you want to look it | 04:34 |
| bartbes | up | 04:34 |
| bartbes | then you don't need join/quit messages | 04:34 |
| bartbes | if you are however spying on people, then you're just plain weird anyway | 04:34 |
| unclouded | wolfspraul: beaten to a commit by kyak. do you want to make any changes to the commit scripts before the next commit? | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | yes agree, the join/part messages and IP addresses do not belong in the archives and create no value | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded: no no :-) | 04:35 |
| zear | bartbes, it's not about you spying on people, it's about google caching everything | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | just commit | 04:35 |
| zear | bartbes, it's just in case someone ineeds choose to look up some information about you ;) | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | it creates no value, it has to go | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | that simple | 04:36 |
| bartbes | I was merely stating the use cases of the logs | 04:36 |
| bartbes | saying thatthe join/quit messages are useless | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | if my mind would work quicker I would have done this right the day when I installed eggdrop, but that thing has so many config options and my brain is so slow nowadays, it takes some time... | 04:37 |
| wolfspraul | zear: in hindsight, thanks for alerting me about the IP problem, I might not have noticed... | 04:37 |
| zear | ;) | 04:37 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Neil Stockbridge: Merge branch 'master' of git@projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ad78aa7 | 04:38 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Neil Stockbridge: initial port of Freedroid http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/88b28ae | 04:38 |
| unclouded | wolfspraul: when it says "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1", is that something up with your scripts? | 04:39 |
| bartbes | heh | 04:41 |
| bartbes | not quite fixed then | 04:41 |
| wolfspraul | hmm | 04:42 |
| wolfspraul | guess so :-) | 04:42 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded: when did you get that error? | 04:42 |
| wolfspraul | you did a 'git push' from the command line? | 04:42 |
| unclouded | yup | 04:43 |
| unclouded | should I not have? | 04:43 |
| wolfspraul | sure why not | 04:43 |
| wolfspraul | strange I tested this carefully, didn't see anything | 04:43 |
| unclouded | I'm not all that familiar with git. I use svn and mercurial mostly | 04:43 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded: it's just a minor annoyance, the git push went through just fine | 04:43 |
| bartbes | unclouded: you did nothing wrong, don't worry | 04:43 |
| wolfspraul | just a bit surprised why I didn't see it and how to reproduce it... should be easy to fix | 04:44 |
| unclouded | RE: the Freedroid port: the title music doesn't work but the rest seems to. If you liked Paradroid on the C64 then this game will bring back memories | 04:45 |
| unclouded | wolfspraul: I had to pull and merge before pushing. I don't know if that would affect anything | 04:46 |
| wolfspraul | zear: hmm, I think actions and nick changes are still important, need to check whether they are still logged... | 04:50 |
| Action: wtest testing logging | 04:51 | |
| Action: bartbes agrees | 04:51 | |
| zear | I was wondering. I can agree nicks are important, but what if the logs would color the logs depending on who said what | 04:52 |
| zear | each nick currently on channel would be assigned a different color | 04:52 |
| zear | that way the logs would be anonymous, but one could still distinguish different persons in discussions | 04:53 |
| bartbes | but why the anonimity? | 04:53 |
| wtest | the nick change is not logged anymore, the actions are | 04:53 |
| wtest | I think we can get rid of nick changes too | 04:53 |
| wtest | most of the time it's just things like | 04:53 |
| bartbes | in my example, if I wanted to know what wolfspraul said, I need to know it's him | 04:53 |
| zear | bartbes, because say something inappropriate and it will be saved for ever by google ;) | 04:54 |
| bartbes | then don't say anything inappropriate | 04:54 |
| bartbes | (using this name) | 04:54 |
| zear | yea, but i use this name on other channel in freenode | 04:54 |
| wspraul_away | bartbes: yeah but irc is not attempting any real authentication | 04:54 |
| zear | i'd have to use a different irc client to have a different nick just for this channel | 04:54 |
| wspraul | does anybody feel 'nick changes' need to be logged? | 04:54 |
| bartbes | I know | 04:55 |
| wspraul | cause they are not with the latest settings... | 04:55 |
| bartbes | making the solution simple | 04:55 |
| wspraul | I can live without them | 04:55 |
| bartbes | do not say inappropriate things | 04:55 |
| wspraul | actions are logged | 04:55 |
| zear | bartbes, you don't know what will be inappropriate after years | 04:56 |
| zear | maybe you will say something like "I hate microsoft products" and in 5 years you will be trying to get a job at redmond | 04:57 |
| zear | and then they will google your nick and find out about your hatred towards ms ;) | 04:57 |
| bartbes | bartbes: heh | 04:58 |
| bartbes | oops | 04:58 |
| bartbes | did I just direct that at myself? | 04:58 |
| bartbes | zear: heh, I have that | 04:58 |
| bartbes | but think about this: http://www.qdb.us/302429 | 04:58 |
| bartbes | zear: btw, I'm pretty sure they'll 'bing' my nick | 04:58 |
| zear | haha | 04:59 |
| zear | i remember reading somewhere that most of ms employees use google | 04:59 |
| zear | their programmers also work on linux machines | 04:59 |
| wspraul | gentlemen | 05:00 |
| wspraul | logging without 'nick changes' - OK? | 05:00 |
| bartbes | yeah sure, why not | 05:00 |
| wspraul | I see no value in tracking nick changes, most of them are just _away changes | 05:00 |
| wspraul | and nicknames on irc are freely chosen and have little/zero authentication value anyway | 05:01 |
| bartbes | I have nick enforcement | 05:01 |
| zear | <paranoia on>and _away changes can give the informations about hours when you start/end your work, or when you're not at home</paranoia off> | 05:01 |
| wspraul | ok, unless someone says they want nick changes in the logs, they are gone | 05:01 |
| wspraul | zear: yes, but we can also think about the positive value. Is there any positive value? if no, why log. it's just junk. | 05:02 |
| wspraul | most of what I see is people changing their nick to _away and back later. | 05:02 |
| wspraul | no need to log that | 05:02 |
| bartbes | zear: somehow I think you don't even need to switch the paranoia on | 05:02 |
| zear | ;P | 05:03 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: btw, what would you think of me checking the scan stuff into a git on projects.qi-hw ? (tomorrow or so) not sure how git likes large binaries. i think it should be fine, but i've never tried it. size is around 90 MB now, but growing. should be ~500 MB in the end. | 05:03 |
| zear | i'm not paranoic, it is a fact that google caches it | 05:03 |
| zear | and i don't want to give informations about myself so easily | 05:03 |
| zear | it's not that i'm scared about being spied by someone, it's just that i don't want to give all that information | 05:04 |
| wpwrak | zear: if you want to hide your comings and goings, just don't /n *away ? :) | 05:04 |
| wspraul | wpwrak: yeah totally, git is good let's try | 05:04 |
| zear | i never do ;) | 05:04 |
| zear | wpwrak, and that about _away was a joke anyway ;P | 05:04 |
| wolfspraul | zear: your point about the IP addresses being logged was very good, I'm seriously happy you brought it up | 05:05 |
| wolfspraul | someone could do all sorts of profiling, and I think none of use would want that | 05:05 |
| wpwrak | wspraul: kewl. i might even be able to link directly to the files, avoiding the copies on my server (with an ancient and small disk) | 05:06 |
| wolfspraul | there is enough data already everywhere, no need to create more and more | 05:06 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: should we create a separate project? | 05:06 |
| bartbes | hmm, what are you guys doing? | 05:06 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (project) yes, i think i should do that | 05:06 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: but first, i have to get a bunch of new and (hopefully) improved idbgs to work ... | 05:07 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: project creation is not automated, I need to do it for you | 05:08 |
| wolfspraul | do you have an account on projects? | 05:08 |
| wolfspraul | I need 2 things: your account name (wpwrak?) and what name you want for the project | 05:08 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: account: werner, project name: how about keeping the not entirely accurate but reasonably self-explanatory "Ben NanoNote Case Scans" ? short name perhaps ben-scans or ben-case-scans | 05:11 |
| kyak | guys, this is a good point indeed, but IRC never assumed privacy. That's why bnc's found a great use and host cloaking | 05:11 |
| wpwrak | (not entirely accurate) because the scans also include items that are not really part of the case, such as the PCBs | 05:11 |
| kyak | kyak [~kyak@unaffiliated/kyak] | 05:11 |
| wpwrak | the main privacy concern is linking odd statements to well-known identities anyway. i mean, after a while, it's pretty clear who you are in real life :) but yes, you can defeat the stray google search | 05:12 |
| wolfspraul | ben-scans is good, the shorter the better | 05:15 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: convert all icon to 32x32, add one termnial apps icon http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a3542cd | 05:15 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: convert all icon to 32x32, add one terminal apps icon http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/448990f | 05:16 |
| bartbes | again? :P | 05:16 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, there is a typo "termnial" --> "terminal" :P | 05:17 |
| bartbes | ... | 05:17 |
| bartbes | so ehm, how did you fix it, --amend? | 05:17 |
| wolfspraul | xiangfu: did you get an error when you did 'git push'? | 05:17 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, yes | 05:17 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, no | 05:17 |
| bartbes | well, normally you should amend before you push though | 05:18 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, wait. there is one: "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" | 05:18 |
| bartbes | now we all got to see your type anyway | 05:18 |
| Action: bartbes fears SuperLinda | 05:18 | |
| xiangfu | bartbes, yes. | 05:19 |
| SuperLinda | does any one know how to connect devices to the nanonote | 05:19 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (short names) yup :) i might also try to simplify the file names a little. e.g., the draft-1mm isn't so pretty. | 05:19 |
| SuperLinda | how do you do you do it | 05:20 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: did you know that indefero supports both git & svn? do you want git or do you feel you have no choice? | 05:20 |
| SuperLinda | I could not use lsusb | 05:21 |
| wolfspraul | I'm slightly leaning towards git because it receives more love (commit logs etc), but if you are happier with svn we get that to work as well... | 05:21 |
| SuperLinda | so does anyone know how to mount devices | 05:22 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: whichever has a repository-to-web gateway that gives nice mime types, so that i can link to :) | 05:23 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, there is one way: "sudo sshfs root@192.168.254.101:/ /mnt" | 05:23 |
| wolfspraul | let's do git then | 05:23 |
| SuperLinda | thanks I will try this now | 05:24 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB#Transfer_files | 05:24 |
| SuperLinda | thanks xiangfu, I will look at this as well | 05:25 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, you are welcome. :) | 05:26 |
| wolfspraul | http://projects.qi-hardware.com/p/ben-scans/ | 05:26 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: if anything doesn't work, let me know | 05:26 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: thanks ! i'll get to it once the idbgs are up. | 05:27 |
| wolfspraul | wpwrak: if you want shorter URLs you can use http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/ ... | 05:28 |
| wolfspraul | I'm pretty sure we keep this second domain stable since we use it also for the commit log URLs | 05:29 |
| SuperLinda | hey, do any of you guys use another browser other than lynx | 05:29 |
| SuperLinda | and like connecting a linux pc as host to Ben, is there a way to connect a phone directly as a modem | 05:30 |
| wolfspraul | xiangfu: I am trying to understand why unclouded (Neil Stockbridge) got a script error earlier when he pushed into git | 05:33 |
| wolfspraul | if you see any error when pushing, let me know | 05:33 |
| wolfspraul | unclouded did 2 commits it seems, I don't fully understand why http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/changes/master/ | 05:33 |
| wolfspraul | he got "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" | 05:34 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, me too. | 05:35 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, 17:18 wait. there is one: "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" | 05:36 |
| wolfspraul | you got that error too? | 05:36 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, yes. | 05:36 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: (short url) oh, nice ! the less redundancy, the better :) | 05:36 |
| wolfspraul | xiangfu: ok I'll try to reproduce it then. | 05:36 |
| bartbes | SuperLinda: well, it doesn't have USB host mode | 05:39 |
| bartbes | so I guess you'd need to create some serial connections manually, then get some drivers, do some more hard work, etc | 05:40 |
| bartbes | though I believe there were some working wifi cards | 05:40 |
| SuperLinda | Bartbes: well what if my phone does have usb host mode? | 05:42 |
| bartbes | well, in that case you'd need to mimic the setup you do on your comp on your phone | 05:43 |
| SuperLinda | and would installing debian be good for doing this? | 05:43 |
| SuperLinda | I see | 05:44 |
| SuperLinda | hey... a little sidenote... I have tried to set the password, using passwd | 05:45 |
| SuperLinda | but when i reboot it does not remember this | 05:45 |
| bartbes | that's weird | 05:47 |
| bartbes | I never had that.. | 05:47 |
| bartbes | maybe some of the other guys here now | 05:47 |
| bartbes | *know | 05:47 |
| SuperLinda | have you upgraded to the latest os | 05:47 |
| SuperLinda | and when you boot openwrt, does it boot with root at start? | 05:48 |
| bartbes | I am root, yes | 05:49 |
| bartbes | is there a way to check which version you are running? | 05:49 |
| xiangfu | /etc/VERSION | 05:49 |
| SuperLinda | Xiangfu: are you able to set a static root password? | 05:50 |
| bartbes | right, and what is the newest one? | 05:51 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, yes. I also use "passwd" to set password. if your rootfs mount as Read Only. | 05:51 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, "2010-06-15" | 05:51 |
| bartbes | right | 05:51 |
| bartbes | I have that | 05:51 |
| SuperLinda | Xianfu: what do you mean by "if your rootfs mount as Read Only. | 05:53 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, I am plan to add commit number to the /etc/VERSION. | 05:53 |
| bartbes | SuperLinda: type mount | 05:53 |
| xiangfu | like "2010-06-15 #commit d795fb" | 05:53 |
| bartbes | the first line should be something like "ubi0:rootfs on / type ubifs (rw,relatime) | 05:54 |
| bartbes | " | 05:54 |
| bartbes | notice the rw, meaning read/write, if it says ro, then your fs is mounted read-only | 05:54 |
| SuperLinda | the first line I get is: rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) | 05:57 |
| SuperLinda | then the next line is :ubi0:rootfs on / type ubifs (rw,relatime) | 05:57 |
| bartbes | ehm | 05:58 |
| bartbes | I might've had some minor scrolling :P | 05:58 |
| bartbes | well, that sounds right | 05:58 |
| SuperLinda | ok cool | 05:58 |
| SuperLinda | then I wonder why I boot into root automatically with no request for a password | 05:59 |
| bartbes | oh | 05:59 |
| bartbes | you wonder *that* | 05:59 |
| bartbes | because a login prompt is never started, it's that easy | 05:59 |
| wolfspraul | xiangfu: you got that script error when you did git push? | 06:00 |
| wolfspraul | on the console, in Linux? | 06:00 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, yes. | 06:01 |
| bartbes | SuperLinda: actually I don't think there's a login prompt installed | 06:01 |
| wolfspraul | ok thx | 06:01 |
| wolfspraul | ok I think the irclogs are much cleaner now http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/ | 06:05 |
| wolfspraul | no more join & part messages, no more IP addresses, no more netsplits and what not administrative stuff | 06:06 |
| wolfspraul | only public messages and actions | 06:06 |
| wolfspraul | I also purged the entire irclog archives so it's all consistant past and present | 06:06 |
| xiangfu | great. :) | 06:07 |
| bartbes | (actually, it makes sense for actions to be treated as public messages, because they are) | 06:09 |
| bartbes | (an action message is a normal public message with a CTCP command) | 06:10 |
| qi-bot | [commit] kyak: sound now works in freedroid, but only after enabling swap (takes quite http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1ad8df0 | 06:21 |
| kyak | btw, i confirm error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1 :) | 06:22 |
| SuperLinda | hey do you know how to make the password stick, when setting the password with passwd? | 06:22 |
| SuperLinda | is anyone here? | 06:23 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, just input passwd twice. follow the `passwd` tips. | 06:24 |
| bartbes | they stick | 06:24 |
| bartbes | you simply never have to log in | 06:24 |
| bartbes | as I said | 06:24 |
| bartbes | xiangfu: ehm, how do I quit joe? :P | 06:25 |
| SuperLinda | Ok Xiang let me try | 06:25 |
| SuperLinda | Xiangfu I have tried this and it still does not work | 06:26 |
| bartbes | SuperLinda: but when do you expect a password prompt? | 06:26 |
| SuperLinda | I mean it accepts the password, but it does not request the password at boot | 06:26 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, Ctrl + C. | 06:28 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, for save file "Ctrl + K, D" | 06:28 |
| bartbes | found it | 06:28 |
| bartbes | I think I died ctrl+x though | 06:28 |
| bartbes | must've missed the button ;) | 06:29 |
| bartbes | SuperLinda: because it can't | 06:29 |
| xiangfu | SuperLinda, oh. you want the system stop at login prompt. wait for username and password. | 06:29 |
| bartbes | there is *no* program installed that prompts you | 06:29 |
| bartbes | or, that boots anyway | 06:29 |
| bartbes | but I doubt it is installed | 06:29 |
| bartbes | I told you that before (or I tried to) | 06:29 |
| SuperLinda | Ok Xiangfu: so there is no use in setting a root password? | 06:30 |
| bartbes | when you ssh | 06:30 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, "Ctrl + K, H" for help, :) just fyi. | 06:36 |
| bartbes | meh | 06:37 |
| bartbes | it's not like I'm going to use joe anyway | 06:37 |
| bartbes | I used to use nano | 06:37 |
| bartbes | but I switched to vim | 06:37 |
| SuperLinda | noticing that openwrt uses ikpg packages has anyone converted any other browsers to use for wrt | 06:45 |
| SuperLinda | maybe a project in the works | 06:45 |
| SuperLinda | :) | 06:45 |
| bartbes | I think the wiki says someone is working on links2 | 06:50 |
| SuperLinda | hmmm let me look that up | 06:53 |
| wolfspraul | zear: I finished the irclogs cleanup | 06:57 |
| wolfspraul | http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/ | 06:57 |
| zear | wolfspraul, looks great, thanks | 06:57 |
| wolfspraul | nah thank you for highlighting the issue | 06:57 |
| wolfspraul | let's try like this for a while... | 06:58 |
| Jan0 | Can anyone help me? | 09:22 |
| Jan0 | PLease | 09:24 |
| Jan0 | can anyone help me here? | 09:24 |
| Jan0 | i have some questions about hardware | 09:24 |
| xiangfu | Jan0, what is the question? | 09:26 |
| bartbes | I'd appreciate it if you didn't start a private message but talk in here, Jan0 | 09:28 |
| bartbes | *send | 09:28 |
| bartbes | it's not like I didn't already have 16 tabs open | 09:29 |
| bartbes | xiangfu: so does joe still drop you to a terminal? | 09:30 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, I am test the guile Makefile file now. will check the emails and test after test and commit guile. :) | 09:31 |
| bartbes | it's not like there's a solution | 09:31 |
| bartbes | more like | 09:31 |
| bartbes | "works for me" ;) | 09:31 |
| qi-bot | #qi-hardware-test [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [links] move to Web submenu http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5efb573 | 09:38 |
| qi-bot | #qi-hardware-test [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [guile] fix compile error by John Moore http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5492fb2 | 09:38 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, I modify the "joe" shorcut to yours. but still not work. :( | 09:41 |
| bartbes | that's weird.. | 09:44 |
| bartbes | same for other applications? | 09:44 |
| bartbes | and, it does work if you start gmu for example? | 09:45 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, gmu, dgclock works fine. | 09:45 |
| xiangfu | only the terminal apps | 09:45 |
| bartbes | strange | 09:45 |
| bartbes | and, what is that illustrious wrapper? | 09:46 |
| rafa | larsc: you there? | 09:50 |
| larsc | rafa: yes | 09:56 |
| rafa | larsc: Hi. I am trying to boot jlime from NAND. I am at kernel menuconfig.. if I read qi config I read : | 09:57 |
| rafa | CONFIG_MTD_ROOTFS_ROOT_DEV=y | 09:57 |
| rafa | CONFIG_MTD_ROOTFS_SPLIT=y | 09:57 |
| bartbes | xiangfu: do you know how the file browser in gmenu2x works? | 09:57 |
| rafa | but I do not find those options in device drivers -> MTD -> mtd partition support | 09:57 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, don't know. I never make it work. | 09:58 |
| bartbes | :( | 09:58 |
| bartbes | it sucks | 09:58 |
| bartbes | because that'd make linking easy | 09:59 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, we are think add more terminal apps to gmenu2x "applications" section. | 10:00 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, then people can easy run terminal apps. | 10:00 |
| bartbes | that'd be nice | 10:00 |
| bartbes | maybe even an option to drop to a terminal | 10:01 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, yes. there is "fbterm" | 10:02 |
| bartbes | ooh | 10:02 |
| xiangfu | bartbes, I already added it. but not make it work. just like other terminal apps. | 10:02 |
| bartbes | wow, Jan0 had an amazing question | 10:17 |
| wolfspraul | xiangfu: I cleaned up the git commit log scripts a bit more, although I could not reproduce the problem and I don't think I changed anything significant. | 11:06 |
| wolfspraul | so next time you commit - watch any unusual messages. I have a bit more logging turned on on the server now. | 11:07 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, ok. | 11:07 |
| wolfspraul | you just committed a few things - did you get an error there? | 11:08 |
| wolfspraul | (it went into my test setup though, that's why it didn't show up here...) | 11:08 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, there is an error , same as before. | 11:09 |
| wolfspraul | hmm | 11:10 |
| wolfspraul | don't know why I can't reproduce them | 11:10 |
| bartbes | permissions? | 11:10 |
| bartbes | (again) | 11:10 |
| wolfspraul | I'm going through the full procedure, only with a test project | 11:11 |
| wolfspraul | ok we will find the problem... I will just commit into openwrt-packages tomorrow, maybe I see it then | 11:12 |
| bartbes | yes, write a nice package Makefile :P | 11:13 |
| bartbes | (just to be clear, this is a joke) | 11:13 |
| wolfspraul | why not, I need to speed up. only that I dont' want to delay tracking down and fixing this particular little thing... | 11:14 |
| wolfspraul | so I'll just commit a test makefile, then delete it again. just want to get rid of this error quickly... | 11:14 |
| xiangfu | wolfspraul, I have fix some typo not commit to openwrt-packge.git. I can commit it now. | 11:15 |
| wolfspraul | yeah but you will probably just see the bug again | 11:15 |
| wolfspraul | just try | 11:15 |
| wolfspraul | I'm too tired now to put more loggin in | 11:15 |
| wolfspraul | the bug may even be in the git script, not our commitlog/irc part | 11:16 |
| Action: bartbes sends wolfspraul a pillow | 11:16 | |
| qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [fbgrab] fix typo http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/819508f | 11:16 |
| wolfspraul | there is the commit :-) | 11:17 |
| xiangfu | Total 4 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0) | 11:17 |
| xiangfu | error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1 | 11:17 |
| xiangfu | To git@projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages.git | 11:17 |
| xiangfu | 5492fb2..819508f master -> master | 11:17 |
| wolfspraul | yeah | 11:17 |
| wolfspraul | I can imagine | 11:17 |
| wolfspraul | I'll look into this tomorrow, it doesn't happen in my test project even though I go through the exact same scripts | 11:18 |
| wolfspraul | n8 everybody | 11:19 |
| bartbes | night wolfspraul | 11:20 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: a new joe package that includes all the emulation modes for Emacs, Pico etc. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8cd0be9 | 11:24 |
| qi-bot | [commit] David Kühling: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/eef6ed8 | 11:24 |
| bartbes | back already? | 11:26 |
| wolfspraul | zombie | 11:26 |
| larsc | rafa: i think you can ignore those entries | 11:42 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Mirko Vogt: NanoMap: adjust Makefile to use the new and more generic way of handling projects using qmake, remove BROKEN flag http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b73cede | 12:01 |
| qi-bot | [commit] Mirko Vogt: NanoMap: update to latest git revision http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9e13344 | 12:07 |
| mirko | finally this qt-stuff is going to be work smooth... :) | 12:29 |
| kristianpaul | :D | 12:54 |
| bartbes | that's so cute ;) | 12:54 |
| Action: kristianpaul running fastgps | 12:54 | |
| mirko | bartbes: i think they just pronounce it "cute" because of so many possible wordplays... | 13:33 |
| bartbes | they probably do | 13:33 |
| viric | Hello | 15:18 |
| viric | I wonder... all the kernel code needed for the nanonote is already upstream in any release? | 15:19 |
| viric | 2.6.34.1, let's say? | 15:19 |
| larsc | it's going to be in 2.6.36 | 15:22 |
| larsc | most of it | 15:22 |
| larsc | the udc driver and the lcd panel driver won't be in it, cause they need some more cleanup | 15:24 |
| viric | About the nanonote I have... | 15:25 |
| viric | When I write the nand, it has troubles writing the 0-1023 blocks (those of uboot) | 15:25 |
| viric | nanddump also fails there | 15:25 |
| viric | also usbboot | 15:25 |
| viric | Is that a common phenomena? | 15:25 |
| larsc | nope | 15:25 |
| viric | uhm | 15:25 |
| viric | # nanddump /dev/mtd0 > /dev/null | 15:26 |
| viric | ECC failed: 82 | 15:26 |
| viric | ECC corrected: 0 | 15:26 |
| viric | writing the sectors does not help. | 15:28 |
| larsc | hm | 15:32 |
| viric | it fails every 0x01000 | 15:33 |
| viric | 0x000000, 0x010000, 0x020000, ... until 0x070000 | 15:33 |
| viric | for the detail of nanddump: http://qi.pastebin.com/SmvzFyCg | 15:36 |
| larsc | and you say you can't even access through usbboot? | 15:36 |
| viric | I can access it | 15:36 |
| viric | but it complains the same way when writing | 15:36 |
| viric | Do you want a pastebin of that? | 15:36 |
| viric | I'm using the latest xburst-tools built yesterday | 15:36 |
| viric | It went the same way through the back usbboot button or through u_key+power_key | 15:37 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: hmm, don't you want to submit sharism's (or qi-hw's ?) USB vendor ID to http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html ? | 22:17 |
| wolfspraul | yeah we should | 22:17 |
| wpwrak | wolfspraul: as an added benefit, I could then pick up the official name of the entry and use it in my #defined in the idbg-ben firmware ;-) | 22:18 |
| wpwrak | #defineS even | 22:18 |
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