| zear | say, why Ben NanoNote has no wikipedia article yet? | 03:27 |
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| kyak | because it's cooler than that? :) | 03:32 |
| zear | oh wikipedia being an open source project is equally cool ;) | 03:32 |
| zear | i don't feel being in a position to write an article about it, but i encourage you guys to do it :) | 03:33 |
| zear | we need publicity, remember how slashdot (or whatever it was) article doubled the sales? | 03:33 |
| wolfspraul | he :-) sales are good indeed :-) | 03:36 |
| kyak | how many so far? | 03:37 |
| wolfspraul | but don't you think too many totally irrelevant projects and people abuse wikipedia for stupid marketing reasons? | 03:37 |
| wolfspraul | I'd say at this point NanoNote is about as relevant as any random new cake creation in a pastry shop :-) | 03:37 |
| zear | wolfspraul, that's true, but Ben NanoNote is a real hardware, it's a commercial product for a couple of months already, there's a lot of articles in the internet to quote | 03:38 |
| wolfspraul | I definitely won't sit down and write a euphemistic article about it... | 03:38 |
| zear | so it deserves an article on the wiki | 03:38 |
| wolfspraul | yeah, but I respect the Wikipedia project and their goals. Flooding it with irrelevant stuff is bad. | 03:38 |
| zear | oh it has to meet the POV | 03:38 |
| wolfspraul | our case should slowly get stronger, I'm not worried | 03:38 |
| wolfspraul | kyak: we sold about 900 to date I think | 03:39 |
| zear | i mean, NPOV, as in neutral point of view ;) | 03:39 |
| zear | wolfspraul, Jlime, heck, even Kristoffer, it's author have their own wiki arts | 03:39 |
| zear | and there are 4 wiki articles linking to nonexistant "Ben NanoNote" article | 03:40 |
| zear | oh, and on the other news, we in jlime are staying in contact with http://humaneinfo.com and trying to make his wikireader software run on the nanonote :) | 03:41 |
| wolfspraul | yes rafa mentioned it - cool | 03:41 |
| zear | his 2009 enwiki dump is only 1.1GB, that's enough to be fit on nano's nand | 03:41 |
| zear | rafa wants to incorporate it with his gnudict port | 03:42 |
| wolfspraul | great | 03:43 |
| zear | the only disadvantage of that will be lack of support for links, but that isn't really a big loss | 03:44 |
| zear | as you can type anything in the search area any time you want | 03:44 |
| zear | i'm really excited about this project | 03:47 |
| bartbes | zear: the dead links might mean that an article existed but was removed | 04:02 |
| bartbes | as happened to me once | 04:02 |
| zear | bartbes, i doubt, they are all in articles about opensource/open hardware projects, as one of the examples of such projects | 04:03 |
| zear | btw wolfspraul, is the initial batch sold out yet? | 04:04 |
| wolfspraul | zear: about 100 left | 04:15 |
| hallo99 | I want to replace the rootfs with my own rootfs, I found a guide at http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ubifs, but this guide assumes I am doing it on the nanonte, how can that work, if I replace the original rootfs? | 06:35 |
| hallo99 | how do I replace the rootfs via usbboot, can I just do mkfs.ubifs and flash this via usbboot? | 06:37 |
| xiangfu | hallo99: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ubifs | 06:42 |
| hallo99 | xiangfu: I have put the nanonote into usb boot mode, but /proc/mtd on my laptop does not list any of the nanonote partions | 06:52 |
| xiangfu | hallo99: that is right. when nanonote into usb-boot mode. it's not a USB-DISK. | 06:54 |
| xiangfu | hallo99: we need use "usbboot" command to reflash the device. | 06:55 |
| xiangfu | hallo99: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Updating_Ben_NanoNote_software | 06:56 |
| hallo99 | If I just want to reflash the rootfs over usb, do I have to use an image created directly by mkfs.ubifs, or do I have to modify that image somehow? | 07:01 |
| xiangfu | hallo99: there are two option to test your rootfs. | 07:02 |
| xiangfu | 1. flash to NAND: the image must ubifs format. yes. we must create the image by mkfs.ubifs | 07:03 |
| xiangfu | 2. copy your rootfs to SD card. boot the system from sd card. | 07:03 |
| xiangfu | format your first sd card partition to ext2. then copy your rootfs to that partition. copy the kernel to SDCARD:/boot/uImage. | 07:04 |
| xiangfu | hold the KEY_M when poweron. NanoNote will boot to sdcard. | 07:05 |
| hallo99 | I don't own an micro-sd card, so option 2 is not for me | 07:11 |
| hallo99 | If I want to flash via usbboot, I do 1. mkfs.ubifs and 2. usbboot? I don't have to do ubinize and ubiformat and ubiattach? | 07:12 |
| wolfspraul | rafa: yes correct, cleaning up a bit | 10:37 |
| wolfspraul | upticked mediawiki, fixed a css problem on downloads | 10:37 |
| wolfspraul | optimized the spamassassin config | 10:38 |
| wolfspraul | want to get rid of the unstable qi-commits and use eggdrop for all irc stuff | 10:38 |
| wolfspraul | want to merge the developer list into the discussion list | 10:38 |
| wolfspraul | preparing to help Sebastien with a new Milkymist website designed by rez/corelabs | 10:38 |
| wolfspraul | and so on | 10:39 |
| rafa | wow.. big TODO list.. nice | 10:39 |
| rafa | (for today) :) | 10:39 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 10:39 |
| wolfspraul | yeah, I also need to get to some more risky things, like removing the partition block from the virtual machine. somehow it's always causing a hang on restarts... | 10:40 |
| wolfspraul | anyway, out now, n8 everybody | 10:40 |
| kristianpaul | nite | 10:40 |
| rafa | cya | 10:41 |
| bartbes | wait | 10:41 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: new news?? | 10:41 |
| bartbes | he says goodnight at 16:30?! | 10:41 |
| rafa | haha | 10:41 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: no good news yet. Waiting for the human wikireader author answer | 10:42 |
| kristianpaul | bartbes: he is the other side of the globe | 10:42 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: I wrote him twice | 10:42 |
| kristianpaul | ok \ | 10:42 |
| bartbes | kristianpaul: then how come his hostname is german? | 10:42 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: and I was thinking how to go further if his answer is not useful for us :) | 10:42 |
| Action: kristianpaul cant wait.. ;) | 10:42 | |
| kristianpaul | bartbes: sshing | 10:42 |
| rafa | I do not have great idea yet though :P | 10:42 |
| bartbes | but why not use ssh+screen and leave the session open? | 10:42 |
| bartbes | too much questions, I know.. | 10:43 |
| kristianpaul | bartbes: :) | 10:43 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: use grep ! | 10:43 |
| kristianpaul | :p | 10:43 |
| rafa | bartbes: if you do that then that is why you want to read the whole buffer chat session that you did not read.. I think that wolfgang does not have enough time for that :) | 10:43 |
| kristianpaul | may be ack-grep modified to wikipedia articls | 10:44 |
| rafa | that is because* | 10:44 |
| kristianpaul | yes time is wothly this days | 10:44 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: we need a tiny dump wikipedia first, and we need to know : | 10:44 |
| rafa | - how to make that tiny wikipedia dump < 2GB | 10:44 |
| kristianpaul | binary ! | 10:45 |
| rafa | - how to get articles from it | 10:45 |
| kristianpaul | grep ! :p | 10:45 |
| bartbes | rafa: that raises the question, why ssh at all? | 10:45 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: buy for that size or binary or really good compressed | 10:45 |
| kristianpaul | ah | 10:45 |
| bartbes | I can probably ask an infinite amount of questions, so it's not like you *have* to answer that one | 10:45 |
| kristianpaul | like wikipediam dumops right now ! | 10:45 |
| kristianpaul | at least for spanish | 10:46 |
| kristianpaul | is less than 2GB | 10:46 |
| rafa | bartbes: perhaps if you use a standard system without many applications installed you will need ssh | 10:46 |
| kristianpaul | but you need indexsome how | 10:46 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: i think you should write to the wikpedia dumpreader developer | 10:46 |
| kristianpaul | if you dint already?.. | 10:46 |
| rafa | bartbes: perhaps I do not have.. but infinite amount of question have infine amount of answers for every question ;) | 10:46 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: english dump is around 6GB these days | 10:47 |
| bartbes | is that true? then why isn't the dna of a duck equal to that of a donkey? | 10:47 |
| bartbes | :P | 10:47 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: yess :( | 10:48 |
| kristianpaul | lets speak all spanish then :) | 10:48 |
| rafa | bartbes: because they live in the same era | 10:48 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: ;-) | 10:48 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 10:49 |
| kristianpaul | thewre is dumps for the simple english wikipedia? | 10:49 |
| kristianpaul | wikireader@decideur.info | 10:49 |
| rafa | kristianpaul: I know how to index and how to retrieve articles if we know how to make dumps <2GB | 10:49 |
| rafa | I am not worried about how to do indexes and how to get articles. The main problem is to have a wikipedia dump <2GB | 10:50 |
| bartbes | a more serious question, why can't I just use mips-*-make instead of having to go through the trouble to get that package system set up? :P | 10:50 |
| bartbes | (I don't expect an answer, I know it isn't that easy) | 10:50 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: indeed | 10:50 |
| kristianpaul | btw the wikireader devices uses 4gb sd no? | 10:50 |
| kristianpaul | so thats a challenge get <2GB | 10:51 |
| rafa | bartbes: because you have not set a toolchain. For jlime we have one, and you just want to build a just application you do not need to build the whole system. | 10:51 |
| kristianpaul | rafa: https://launchpad.net/~benji2 wikipedia dumpreader guy | 10:51 |
| rafa | bartbes: xiangfu said me this today : | 10:51 |
| rafa | "make package/uboot-xburst/compile" | 10:51 |
| rafa | but surely the application is already under openwrt building system. IF you want to build another external application you need a toolchain | 10:52 |
| bartbes | not entirely what I meant | 10:52 |
| bartbes | and I am using thr toolchain | 10:52 |
| bartbes | but my current complaint is that I spend more time waiting then actually fixing | 10:52 |
| rafa | bartbes: then, what do you mean with "to get that package system set up"? | 10:53 |
| bartbes | do you know how long it takes to create a working Makefile? | 10:54 |
| kristianpaul | bbl | 10:55 |
| bartbes | but I'm just bitching | 10:55 |
| rafa | bartbes: I do not understand what you mean, sorry. | 10:55 |
| rafa | bartbes: you write makefiles for every application? | 10:55 |
| bartbes | you have to | 10:55 |
| rafa | ?? | 10:56 |
| bartbes | a special one | 10:56 |
| bartbes | but yeah | 10:56 |
| rafa | the application already have one | 10:56 |
| bartbes | hehe | 10:56 |
| bartbes | no | 10:56 |
| rafa | which applications? | 10:56 |
| bartbes | one with the package definition | 10:56 |
| rafa | are you talking about open source software? | 10:56 |
| rafa | and I do not know that is "package definition" | 10:56 |
| rafa | what is | 10:56 |
| bartbes | http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/devel/packages | 10:56 |
| bartbes | that | 10:56 |
| rafa | bahh.. | 10:56 |
| rafa | are you talking about openwrt :P | 10:57 |
| rafa | why do not you use the Makefile that every application provides? | 10:57 |
| bartbes | because it doesn't work that way | 10:57 |
| rafa | lot of hard work | 10:57 |
| rafa | extra | 10:57 |
| bartbes | if you read the page you'll see why | 10:57 |
| bartbes | it's not like I need to tell it how to compile | 10:57 |
| bartbes | the makefile is purely for instructing the toolchain how to build the application | 10:57 |
| rafa | nah.. I prefer just download the application and build. No extra work. Or, if you need many applications you would use Debian or another more complete building system ;) | 10:58 |
| bartbes | I'm.. porting.. something.. | 10:59 |
| rafa | now I understand why there are millions of new mails talking about application ported to openwrt... :) | 10:59 |
| bartbes | well yeah | 11:03 |
| bartbes | I'm currently failing to port a test app | 11:03 |
| bartbes | :P | 11:03 |
| bartbes | I did manage to port physfs with lots of help from jirkab | 11:03 |
| bartbes | that only took 8 hours :D | 11:04 |
| bartbes | (including setting up the toolchain etc) | 11:04 |
| kyak | xiangfu: ruby host-compile build fails for me | 11:12 |
| kyak | xiangfu: let me know if you experience the same on a clean build | 11:12 |
| xiangfu | kyak: I start to build the openwrt-xburst everyday.(I start to this two days ago, so it's only compile twice :) all compile fine. | 11:15 |
| xiangfu | kyak: what is the error message? | 11:15 |
| xiangfu | kyak: maybe we miss some package in your system. | 11:15 |
| kyak | xiangfu: the error has appeared after package update | 11:21 |
| kyak | i.e. make package/symlinks | 11:21 |
| kyak | xiangfu: http://pastebin.com/xDU3xKQz | 11:23 |
| kyak | hm | 11:24 |
| kyak | i think i'm getting it | 11:24 |
| kyak | my system openssl was updated to 1.0 | 11:24 |
| kyak | this is a host compile, and some older version of openssl is assumed | 11:24 |
| kyak | not cool.. | 11:25 |
| kyak | i think i need to wait when ruby-openssl will be updated to compile again latest openssl | 11:26 |
| xiangfu | kyak: my system is openssl 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 | 11:28 |
| kyak | yeah.. mine was too 0.9.8* before the update | 11:28 |
| xiangfu | kyak: I think I need add "make clean" to that compile. | 11:28 |
| xiangfu | kyak: maybe not. | 11:28 |
| kyak | yeah, it definitely was 0.9.8.. i totally forgot | 11:29 |
| kyak | i updated mandriva 2010.0 -> 2010.1 | 11:29 |
| kyak | so now i have openssl 1.0 | 11:29 |
| kyak | i think i can install an older version of openssl along with the current one | 11:31 |
| kyak | but this can make things worse :) | 11:31 |
| kyak | i skipped the ruby / libruby bild for now | 11:34 |
| xiangfu | kyak: sure. | 11:37 |
| kyak | gdb is built by default.. not necessary, imo | 11:49 |
| kyak | xiangfu: that's all, no more errors except for ruby | 11:53 |
| qi-commits | Carlos Camargo: Changing D10, D9, D8 footprints to 0805 Adding DC jack polarity indication http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/f95025d | 11:56 |
| rafa | xiangfu: you still there? | 12:06 |
| xiangfu | rafa: yes | 12:06 |
| rafa | xiangfu: my professor tried to build openwrt to get the uboot for SAKC. | 12:06 |
| rafa | He found this directory : openwrt-xburst/build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc | 12:07 |
| rafa | but you said me that I should copy build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06/ | 12:07 |
| rafa | to get the sources of uboot for sakc | 12:07 |
| rafa | if that directory (openwrt-xburst/build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc) obsolete? | 12:07 |
| xiangfu | rafa: the code is the same. | 12:08 |
| rafa | xiangfu: ah.. okey :) | 12:08 |
| xiangfu | rafa: the only different is that which different option. | 12:08 |
| rafa | okey.. but if I copy build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06/ as you | 12:09 |
| rafa | suggested me | 12:09 |
| rafa | and then | 12:09 |
| rafa | make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- sakc_config | 12:09 |
| xiangfu | rafa: yes. | 12:09 |
| rafa | I will get the proper code to build the uboot for sakc | 12:09 |
| xiangfu | rafa: yes. | 12:10 |
| rafa | okey, thanks a lot xiangfu | 12:11 |
| xiangfu | rafa: if we select the sakc in bootloader option. (in make menuconfig). then we have have a folder like: /linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc | 12:11 |
| rafa | we were confused because he found the other u-boot-sakc | 12:11 |
| xiangfu | rafa: if we select the qi_lb60 in menuconfig. then we will get a folder like /linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-xburst | 12:11 |
| xiangfu | rafa: the source code is exactly the same. only different is : | 12:11 |
| xiangfu | u-boot-sake run " make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- sakc_config" | 12:12 |
| xiangfu | u-boot-xburst run "make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- qi_lb60_config" | 12:12 |
| rafa | xiangfu: okey, so I did this : | 12:13 |
| rafa | make package/uboot-xburst/compile | 12:13 |
| rafa | then I copied : build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06 | 12:14 |
| rafa | to /tmp for example. | 12:14 |
| rafa | Then I did that you suggested me : | 12:14 |
| rafa | make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- distclean | 12:14 |
| rafa | make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- sakc_config | 12:14 |
| rafa | make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- | 12:14 |
| rafa | and I got the binary :) | 12:14 |
| xiangfu | yes. | 12:14 |
| xiangfu | u-boot-nand.bin is for NAND. | 12:14 |
| rafa | my toolchain is mipsel-linux- .. that is why I did not use mipsel-openwrt-linux- | 12:14 |
| rafa | xiangfu: thans a lot man | 12:15 |
| xiangfu | rafa: you are welcome. | 12:15 |
| bartbes | muahahahaha ?:) | 12:44 |
| bartbes | I'm finally getting the hang of it | 12:44 |
| bartbes | oh and that is supposed to be >, though I probably do have a big curl | 12:44 |
| xiangfu | rafa: in fact the "ARCH=mips" is not needed by uboot(it's only needed by compile kernel). I make an alias crossmake='make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux-' then I can easy type 'crossmake' to compile uboot and kernel. just for your information. :) | 12:47 |
| xiangfu | bartbes: it's compile fine? | 12:47 |
| rafa | xiangfu: ha!.. cool tip ;) | 12:49 |
| bartbes | xiangfu: I'm doing something else which is finally progressing | 12:51 |
| bartbes | too bad it's a test | 12:51 |
| bartbes | and not the final product | 12:51 |
| wpwrak | hmm, what exactly needs 5 V in the sakc ? almost all modern chips want at most 3.3 V ... | 12:51 |
| bartbes | I thought 5V was still considered logic high | 12:54 |
| kyak | xiangfu: here http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2010-June/000734.html you mentioned you included centerim in openwrt-packages.. it's not really there. And it's also not anymore on jirka's page. Do you know what's happened? | 12:55 |
| wpwrak | bartbes: where have you been the last decades ? ;-)) | 13:04 |
| xiangfu | kyak: no. I will send email to him. the centerim is not in oepwnrt-package.git. too bad. I will send email to Jirka again. | 13:05 |
| wpwrak | bartbes: most I/O runs at 3.3 V these days. faster signals, such as memory buses and such, often at 1.8 V. internal logic can go even lower. | 13:05 |
| kyak | xiangfu: thanks! | 13:06 |
| bartbes | wpwrak: but still, wpwrak... | 13:09 |
| bartbes | wow | 13:09 |
| bartbes | mentioned your name twice | 13:10 |
| bartbes | in one sentence | 13:10 |
| bartbes | that has to be a world record | 13:10 |
| xiangfu | kyak: I need goto sleep. 01:00AM here :) | 13:10 |
| bartbes | ... | 13:10 |
| jirkab | wprak: centerim does't work well on Ben's small screen. | 13:10 |
| kyak | xiangfu: indeed you need :) there was some activity here today... thanks for your help :) | 13:10 |
| xiangfu | jirkab: Hi. we have small font now 4x8. we can try it again :) | 13:11 |
| jirkab | ok, the I will add the Makefile for the centerin to git | 13:12 |
| xiangfu | jirkab: very thanks . I got go offline, see you. | 13:12 |
| kyak | jirkab: hi! would be nice | 13:13 |
| jirkab | jyak: btw, centerim IPK is still available: fast10.vsb.cz/brozovsky/data/ports/centerim_4.22.9-2_xburst.ipk | 13:21 |
| kyak | i'm more interested in Makefile, but thanks :) | 13:26 |
| jirkab | kyak: please wait few moments, it will be in GIT repository soon ;-) | 13:29 |
| qi-commits | Jiri Brozovsky: Initial port of Centerim IM application. Needs smaller than the default http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/fdf24ad | 13:30 |
| jirkab | CenterIM should be in openwrt-packages now ;-) | 13:31 |
| kyak | kewl! | 13:31 |
| bartbes | jirkab: so how would I go about linking to SDL? | 13:32 |
| mth | use the flags output by "sdl-config --libs" | 13:32 |
| bartbes | ? | 13:33 |
| bartbes | which sdl-config? | 13:33 |
| mth | the one from the SDK | 13:33 |
| bartbes | where is it located? | 13:35 |
| bartbes | 0wait nvm | 13:35 |
| bartbes | I have find | 13:35 |
| bartbes | pretty sure I did that | 13:36 |
| bartbes | hmm | 13:36 |
| jirkab | also you can specify the libraries by hand: see GMU or Gmenu2x makefiles | 13:37 |
| bartbes | yeah, I checked the output | 13:38 |
| bartbes | it is kind of what I was doing already | 13:38 |
| kyak | jirkab: configure: error: The ncurses terminal library is required in order to build the program | 13:43 |
| kyak | hm.. somehow the ncurses is not detected.. | 13:43 |
| jirkab | kyak: I will try it | 13:48 |
| kyak | jirkab: yeah, please | 13:50 |
| jirkab | kyak: it was an error during configure? | 13:58 |
| jirkab | i see no error | 13:58 |
| jirkab | kyak: it works for me, no ncurses error | 14:01 |
| jirkab | kyak: how you are building this? make menuconfig ; make? | 14:02 |
| kyak | jirkab: yes, during configure | 14:10 |
| kyak | i build make package/centerim/install V=99 | 14:10 |
| kyak | if i just "make" the build still fails | 14:11 |
| kyak | thats very strange, because other programs depending on libncurses build just fine | 14:12 |
| jirkab | kyak: you need to update dependencies (it is done automatically during "make menuconfig") | 14:13 |
| kyak | jirkab: i just built the whole openwrt-xburst, so libncurses is already there definitely.. and i also ran make menuconfig to select centerim | 14:14 |
| kyak | jirkab: do you have the latest everything? | 14:15 |
| jirkab | no idea - i use this SDK for some time | 14:16 |
| jirkab | if you have libncurses.so in the staging_dir/target-*/usr/lib then configure have to find it? | 14:17 |
| jirkab | I updated the sdk at 5 July | 14:18 |
| kyak | yep, have it.. i will try to trick configure script with ac_cv_lib_ncurses_initscr | 14:19 |
| kyak | i'm pretty sure compiler will find it | 14:19 |
| kyak | might be something wrong with the configure script | 14:19 |
| jirkab | but why it works for me? | 14:20 |
| kyak | you are saying you are build with SDK | 14:21 |
| kyak | i build from within the toolchain | 14:21 |
| kyak | maybe there is some difference? | 14:21 |
| kyak | CONFIGURE_VARS+=ac_cv_lib_ncurses_initscr=yes | 14:22 |
| kyak | in Makefile, no it goes further | 14:22 |
| kyak | compiling so far.. | 14:22 |
| kyak | let's see how it links | 14:22 |
| kyak | *now it goes further | 14:23 |
| kyak | ../../src/impgp.h:10:19: error: gpgme.h: No such file or directory | 14:24 |
| kyak | ok, this is next :) | 14:24 |
| kyak | i wonder how you avoided all this stuff.. | 14:24 |
| kyak | seems the dependancy for libgpgme | 14:24 |
| jirkab | strange | 14:26 |
| kyak | might be that you have all this already in SDK | 14:26 |
| jirkab | it's possible | 14:26 |
| jirkab | hm | 14:26 |
| kyak | hmm, i don't have gpgme.h anywhere is openwrt-xburst dir | 14:28 |
| kyak | checking for gpgme-config... /usr/bin/gpgme-config | 14:29 |
| kyak | checking for GPGME - version >= 0.4.2... yes | 14:29 |
| kyak | the hell is wrong with the configure script... | 14:29 |
| kyak | it detects things from my host system | 14:29 |
| jirkab | --without-gpgme | 14:29 |
| jirkab | I don't have gpgme in the host system ;-) | 14:30 |
| kyak | yep... jirkab, i bet you don't have libgpgme-devel in your system? | 14:30 |
| kyak | yes :) | 14:30 |
| kyak | i have it, because i use centerim actively on my host and compile it there.. | 14:30 |
| jirkab | surely I don't have it | 14:31 |
| kyak | btw, --with-linux-headers is not a recognized option.. so it needs to be removed | 14:31 |
| jirkab | it will be removed ;-) | 14:32 |
| kyak | configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-ipv6, --without-gpgme | 14:33 |
| kyak | again i have to trick configure with ac_* stuff.. | 14:33 |
| jirkab | there is an option --with-gpgme= | 14:35 |
| kyak | trying it.. | 14:36 |
| kyak | configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-ipv6, --with-gpgme | 14:36 |
| kyak | still there is : --with-gpgme=PATH path to gpgme-config (auto) | 14:37 |
| kyak | really, in a face of centerim developers for such usage of auto tools. | 14:37 |
| jirkab | strange | 14:39 |
| jirkab | so I have updated my openwrt-xburst; now it is compiling the stuff | 14:41 |
| kyak | ac_cv_path_GPGME_CONFIG="" into the Makefile.. | 14:42 |
| jirkab | checking for gpgme-config... no | 14:42 |
| jirkab | that's nice: no gpgme-config in the host system => no problem :-( | 14:43 |
| kyak | yeah :) | 14:43 |
| jirkab | this is probably why it works for me | 14:43 |
| kyak | hope it won't choke on something else now | 14:43 |
| kyak | finished! | 14:45 |
| jirkab | :-) | 14:45 |
| jirkab | their configure is really clever: | 14:45 |
| jirkab | checking whether NLS is requested... no | 14:45 |
| jirkab | and | 14:45 |
| kyak | jirkab: do you mind if i move centerim to Network/Instant Messaging? | 14:45 |
| jirkab | checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/freeware/bin/msgfmt | 14:45 |
| jirkab | checking for xgettext... /usr/nekoware/bin/xgettext | 14:45 |
| jirkab | checking for msgmerge... /usr/freeware/bin/msgmerge | 14:45 |
| jirkab | oops, its in utils | 14:46 |
| jirkab | yes | 14:46 |
| kyak | damn.. what a weird configure.. just looking everwhere | 14:46 |
| jirkab | it will be better | 14:46 |
| kyak | good! will do it in a minute | 14:47 |
| jirkab | and does it work on the Ben? | 14:47 |
| kyak | good question, lol :)) | 14:48 |
| kyak | ..haven't tried it yet | 14:48 |
| kyak | jirkab: is there special reason why you disabled the checksum check? | 14:49 |
| jirkab | well, as a side product I will probably got compiled it on my MIPS desktop, too | 14:49 |
| kyak | cool, a MIPS desktop | 14:49 |
| jirkab | not only on the NanoNote | 14:50 |
| kyak | a good field to test things :) | 14:50 |
| jirkab | not so cool as I can not use it to compile OpenWRT stuff :-( | 14:50 |
| jirkab | it's SGI O2 | 14:50 |
| kyak | is it because it's big endian? | 14:51 |
| kyak | hm, whats SGI O2? | 14:51 |
| jirkab | silicon graphics | 14:51 |
| jirkab | yes, it's big endian | 14:51 |
| kyak | is it an old computer? | 14:52 |
| jirkab | 1998 | 14:52 |
| jirkab | still faster than Ben | 14:52 |
| kyak | * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for centerim: | 14:53 |
| kyak | * satisfy_dependencies_for: libgpgme * | 14:53 |
| kyak | during opkg install.. | 14:53 |
| kyak | shit.. stupid me | 14:54 |
| kyak | libgpgme in DEPENDS :) | 14:54 |
| kyak | will remove it now | 14:54 |
| jirkab | :-) | 14:55 |
| kyak | opkg just shown it's smartness :) | 14:56 |
| jirkab | libgpgme is not in feeds? | 14:57 |
| kyak | can't see it there | 14:57 |
| jirkab | opkg was designed to be simple | 14:57 |
| kyak | perhaps another thing to oprt | 14:57 |
| jirkab | not to be smart ;-) | 14:57 |
| kyak | *port | 14:57 |
| jirkab | gpgme is surely in openwwrt | 14:58 |
| kyak | what is simple, still can be smart ;) | 14:58 |
| jirkab | probably it is only not edabled to compile | 14:58 |
| kyak | find . -type d -name gpgme | 14:59 |
| kyak | nothing | 14:59 |
| cxdd | hi | 15:01 |
| cxdd | writing from centerim here | 15:02 |
| kristianpaul | hey | 15:02 |
| kyak | cxdd: good. now get out | 15:02 |
| jirkab | so centerim works? | 15:02 |
| cxdd | kyak yes sir | 15:02 |
| kyak | yep :) | 15:02 |
| jirkab | nice | 15:04 |
| jirkab | so really, no gpgme here | 15:05 |
| jirkab | I thought it is :-( | 15:05 |
| qi-commits | kyak: centerim: some configure overrides to make it build in openwrt toolchain http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d25f457 | 15:13 |
| kyak | so it's there | 15:13 |
| kyak | jirkab: thanks a lot for your help! | 15:13 |
| jirkab | will you add your updated Makefile to GIT? | 15:15 |
| jirkab | ok, I'm blind | 15:16 |
| jirkab | you just did it | 15:16 |
| jirkab | nice! | 15:16 |
| jirkab | thanks much, too | 15:16 |
| kyak | i'm a little worried about the checksum though | 15:19 |
| kyak | you had something different, and commented | 15:19 |
| kyak | they don't have MD5SUM on their download site, so who knows what's there? | 15:20 |
| jirkab | I don't rememeber | 15:20 |
| kyak | ah the chechsum is ok :) | 15:21 |
| jirkab | good | 15:21 |
| kyak | googled it in many other repos | 15:21 |
| kyak | no for the Friday beer.. see you all later! | 15:21 |
| qi-commits | Jiri Brozovsky: Physfs library - initial port. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a20cbc7 | 16:19 |
| tom7 | hi i m thinking of building pc, i want to check if all components are compatible, can someone help? | 17:20 |
| superLinda | hello | 20:05 |
| superLinda | is anyone here | 20:05 |
| superLinda | hello | 20:06 |
| superLinda | I have flashed my Nanonote, but I am not able to use the the keyboard on the gui | 20:07 |
| superLinda | I mean I can not navigate to specific apps on the Latest image | 20:08 |
| mth | is the gui gmenu2x? with a tab bar on the top of the screen, icons in the middle and a status bar on the bottom? | 20:09 |
| mth | I don't have a NanoNote myself, so I don't know exactly what the default config is | 20:09 |
| superLinda | yes | 20:10 |
| superLinda | there is also the letters R on the right side, and L on the left side of the screen | 20:11 |
| mth | they refer to the shoulder buttons of the gp2x, where gmenu2x originates from | 20:11 |
| mth | they change tab | 20:11 |
| mth | but I don't know which NanoNote keys are the equivalents | 20:11 |
| superLinda | Ok | 20:12 |
| mth | zear should know, but he's not here right now | 20:12 |
| superLinda | but I want to be able to install and use the web browser on it | 20:12 |
| superLinda | when is he usually here | 20:13 |
| ezdagor | AFAIK, "q" = left, "p" = right | 20:13 |
| ezdagor | "x" = execute | 20:14 |
| superLinda | yeah, thats how it works on my nanonote | 20:14 |
| ezdagor | Nod. | 20:14 |
| superLinda | I never knew x was for execute | 20:14 |
| superLinda | what is Nod | 20:15 |
| ezdagor | Nodding head. | 20:15 |
| superLinda | ok | 20:15 |
| superLinda | cool cool, thanks ezdagor, atleast i learned something today | 20:17 |
| superLinda | I wish to learn more | 20:17 |
| superLinda | how did you know the keys and what they do? | 20:17 |
| superLinda | did you find out by trial and error? | 20:17 |
| mth | there is a doc page, but it's not very easy to find: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gmenu2x | 20:24 |
| superLinda | thanks, I will go there now | 20:24 |
| superLinda | Hey real quick question :) | 20:26 |
| superLinda | I see a lot of people on this chat, but not a lot of action. How active is this community? | 20:27 |
| mth | the chat activity is a bit random | 20:29 |
| mth | we have people from many time zones here, but they're not always active at the same time | 20:29 |
| superLinda | I see | 20:30 |
| mth | a relatively high number of users are also developers, so there are a lot of things being worked on | 20:30 |
| superLinda | Thats I want to become | 20:31 |
| superLinda | a developer | 20:31 |
| superLinda | so how come you do not have a nanonote? | 20:31 |
| mth | I'm actually a developer for the Dingoo, but since that has the same Ingenic SoC chip as its heart as the NanoNote I hang around here as well | 20:32 |
| superLinda | is the Dingoo and project that Qi is working on? | 20:33 |
| mth | the Dingoo is a Chinese portable media player / game console | 20:33 |
| mth | it's a completely unrelated company, but the hardware is similar | 20:33 |
| mth | I used the drivers that larsc wrote for the NanoNote and used them to make a more modern kernel for the Dingoo | 20:34 |
| mth | the Dingoo doesn't come with Linux, but thanks to the USB boot mode and the efforts of a guy nicknamed booboo it does run Linux now (Dingoo Linux aka Dingux) | 20:34 |
| superLinda | wow | 20:35 |
| superLinda | were could I see this device | 20:36 |
| mth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingoo | 20:36 |
| superLinda | thanks | 20:37 |
| mth | Dingoo users hang out on the dingoonity.org forums and #dingoonity on this IRC server | 20:38 |
| qwebirc58877 | I will check that out as well | 20:40 |
| superLinda | test | 20:41 |
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