wpwrak | lekernel: so i'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand all the buzz about the arduino ;-) | 03:35 |
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lekernel | there's a word for it: hipsterism | 03:49 |
wpwrak | lekernel: heh ;-) | 03:52 |
freespace | this brings to mind the word elitism | 03:52 |
freespace | :P | 03:52 |
bartbes | I'd say it's more like ease of use | 03:57 |
bartbes | it's an easy way to get into 'hardware' | 03:58 |
bartbes | hmm | 03:58 |
bartbes | better word would be electronics | 03:58 |
bartbes | it allows you to build pretty complicated stuff really fast | 03:58 |
bartbes | you could say it's mostly a prototyping platform | 03:58 |
freespace | got it in one bartbes | 03:59 |
unclouded | can Arduino boards be used as a normal AVR development board? | 04:14 |
bartbes | as in? | 04:14 |
unclouded | like having spike suppression on RESET and a 10-pin header but being able to blow away the Arduino bootloader and use it like a normal AVR | 04:18 |
freespace | you you can easily blow away the bootloader | 04:18 |
freespace | what is spike suppression on reset? | 04:19 |
bartbes | ofc you can overwrite the bootloader | 04:19 |
unclouded | stops noise resetting the AVR when you didn't expect it | 04:19 |
bartbes | provided you have a programmer | 04:19 |
freespace | how is it done 'normally' | 04:19 |
unclouded | a stronger pull-up and a capacitor | 04:20 |
bartbes | well, I guess it has that | 04:20 |
bartbes | because I have never seen it reset at random | 04:20 |
freespace | me neither | 04:21 |
freespace | the schematics are available online, this should be a simple thing to check | 04:22 |
unclouded | I haven't seen one reset without the suppression parts either but Atmel still recommends those external parts for production systems | 04:25 |
unclouded | page 15 here: http://atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc1619.pdf | 04:27 |
freespace | there is at the very least a pullup :http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/arduino-duemilanove-schematic.pdf | 04:29 |
orly_owl | when is the next nanonote out | 04:29 |
unclouded | anyway I just wondered about the Arduino boards. I don't have any EE qualifications so I'm talking out of my hat a bit | 04:30 |
unclouded | freespace: thanks for the schematic. looks like C13 does spike suppression | 04:31 |
freespace | nod | 04:32 |
lekernel | unclouded, arduino boards are normal avr boards - nothing else... | 05:29 |
wolfspraul | lekernel: thanks for the excellent GPS links, I never saw this project before! | 05:31 |
qi-commits | Mirko Vogt: move metadata such as config and unpackaged files into git - directory data/ http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e6555e7 | 15:58 |
kristianpaul | mirko: awake? | 22:16 |
kristianpaul | mirko: are you aware of new X features in backfire openwrt? | 22:17 |
kristianpaul | and the posibillity of give the option to run X on the xbusrt openwrt in case X could works nice? | 22:17 |
kristianpaul | :) | 22:17 |
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