| kyak | xiangfu: hi | 00:51 |
|---|---|---|
| kyak | do you have problems building glib2 after feeds update? cause I do :) | 00:51 |
| xiangfu | kyak: Hi | 02:24 |
| kyak | hi again | 02:25 |
| xiangfu | kyak: I don't have compile error after feeds update. | 02:33 |
| xiangfu | kyak: seems the glib2 not select by default. | 02:35 |
| kyak | hm, i wonder how it became selected for me.. will try to disable | 02:36 |
| kyak | xiangfu: glib2 is "hard selected" in make menuconfig | 02:37 |
| kyak | --- glib2.. | 02:38 |
| kyak | like this | 02:38 |
| xiangfu | kyak: which sub-menu? | 02:38 |
| xiangfu | kyak: not here. | 02:39 |
| xiangfu | kyak: <Libraries> --> <glibc> not selected. | 02:39 |
| kyak | Libraries -> glib2 | 02:39 |
| kyak | glib2, not glibc | 02:40 |
| xiangfu | kyak: yes. glib2 , not select here. | 02:40 |
| kyak | hm | 02:40 |
| kyak | there must be some dependancy that made it active | 02:41 |
| xiangfu | kyak: yes. | 02:41 |
| kyak | i think i'll just grab the latest .config and replace mine | 02:42 |
| kyak | it must be skrewed | 02:42 |
| xiangfu | :) | 02:43 |
| kyak | hm | 02:44 |
| kyak | it's still active | 02:44 |
| kyak | is there some other config? | 02:44 |
| xiangfu | kyak: oh. I can my .config. what is the glib2 error? | 02:46 |
| xiangfu | I change my .config fle. | 02:47 |
| xiangfu | dis-select the glib2. | 02:47 |
| kyak | can i have it please? | 02:47 |
| xiangfu | kyak: ok wait. | 02:48 |
| kyak | i'll show you the error in a few.. | 02:48 |
| xiangfu | kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/ | 02:49 |
| xiangfu | kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/glib2_2.22.2-1_xburst.ipk | 02:50 |
| kyak | http://pastebin.mandriva.com/19281 | 02:50 |
| kyak | th error | 02:50 |
| kyak | xiangfu: i don't actually need the ipk :) | 02:51 |
| kyak | better to get this fixed or not to build glib2 at all | 02:51 |
| kyak | xiangfu: i meant, can i have your .config? | 02:52 |
| xiangfu | kyak: oh. you mean the .config file. sorry. | 02:52 |
| kyak | also, you can build glib2, so the problem might be something else | 02:53 |
| kyak | at first i understood it so, that it got selected for me by accident | 02:54 |
| xiangfu | kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/config | 02:54 |
| xiangfu | kyak: maybe you check if there gettext library in your host system. | 02:55 |
| kyak | xiangfu: there is.. also, it built just fine until yerterday's evening | 02:56 |
| kyak | when i updated feeds | 02:56 |
| kyak | hm, make menuconfig is taking a while with your .config | 02:57 |
| kyak | it just keep outputting three lines | 03:00 |
| kyak | ++ mkdir -p stamp lib usr/include usr/lib | 03:00 |
| kyak | mkdir & | 03:00 |
| kyak | cd .. | 03:00 |
| xiangfu | kyak: hmm. strange. | 03:01 |
| xiangfu | kyak: we just delete the .config file. and create a new one. by "make menuconfig" | 03:01 |
| kyak | good idea | 03:01 |
| xiangfu | kyak: the glib2 finished compile here. without error. | 03:02 |
| kyak | make menuconfig started ok without .config | 03:02 |
| xiangfu | kyak: select [Target System] --> [Ingenic XBurst]. | 03:04 |
| xiangfu | kyak: [Subtarget] --> [QI Ben Nanonote (qi_lb60)] | 03:05 |
| kyak | yep | 03:05 |
| kyak | anytthing else? | 03:06 |
| xiangfu | kyak: no . | 03:07 |
| kyak | making now.. | 03:08 |
| kyak | xiangfu: it went fine, cause no pacakges were selected | 03:25 |
| kyak | rootfs is 916 Kb :) | 03:25 |
| kyak | not i try to enable glib2 | 03:28 |
| kyak | and build fails | 03:30 |
| kyak | after i enabled glib2 | 03:31 |
| kyak | the same error | 03:31 |
| xiangfu | kyak: hmm.. try to select "libintl" in | 03:45 |
| xiangfu | Libraries | 03:45 |
| kyak | xiangfu: it's selected by default | 03:48 |
| kyak | "Hard" selected | 03:49 |
| xiangfu | kyak: hmm. if there "gettext-0.17" under "build_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1" | 03:52 |
| kyak | xiangfu: there is | 03:53 |
| xiangfu | kyak: if there is. let's try delete "gettext-0.17" and "glib-2.22.2" and try "make" again. | 03:53 |
| kyak | making now | 03:54 |
| kyak | xiangfu: hey, it went fine! :) | 04:02 |
| kyak | xiangfu: thanks :) i need to "make clean" sometimes | 04:03 |
| xiangfu | kyak: great. | 04:09 |
| xiangfu | iPerl: hihi :) | 05:33 |
| N_jie_qi | hi | 05:33 |
| xiangfu | hi | 05:33 |
| iPerl | xiangfu: hi:) | 05:34 |
| wpwrak | lekernel: good point ;-) | 05:48 |
| kyak | mathomatic is not compiled, complains for readline unavailable | 05:56 |
| kyak | disabled it. | 05:56 |
| kyak | hm, no wonder, libreadline gets built after mathomatic | 05:57 |
| kyak | it is so useful to make a clean build sometimes | 05:59 |
| qwebirc60110 | hi Iam newbie to nanonote | 06:17 |
| qwebirc60110 | can anybody help me | 06:17 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc60110: Hi | 06:18 |
| qwebirc60110 | can you help me xiangfu | 06:19 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc60110: hope I can . :). what is the problem? | 06:19 |
| qwebirc60110 | how can i develop any application for it ? | 06:21 |
| qwebirc60110 | and run ove rit | 06:21 |
| zear | qwebirc60110, you can write it on your desktop pc and then cross-compile it with a right toolchain to the nanonote | 06:23 |
| zear | use the same tools you use for developing apps for linux | 06:24 |
| qwebirc60110 | from where I can download the toolchain ? | 06:24 |
| zear | you have to compile it yourself | 06:24 |
| xiangfu | qwebirc60110: here is some document: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image#Building_OpenWrt-image_from_source | 06:24 |
| qwebirc60110 | can we develop any graphical appication for it ? | 06:32 |
| zear | qwebirc60110, yes, if you use the right libs | 06:55 |
| zear | mainly sdl | 06:55 |
| qwebirc60110 | how ? plz tell me the procedure | 06:56 |
| zear | though there is also gtk and qt, but there are still problems with that libs | 06:56 |
| zear | well.. you have to learn sdl | 06:56 |
| qwebirc60110 | that is not the issue | 06:56 |
| zear | the sdl app has to be 320x240 and 32bpp | 06:56 |
| zear | that's pretty much all about sdl | 06:56 |
| qwebirc60110 | i only need to knwo the procedure | 06:56 |
| qwebirc60110 | and what about toolchain | 06:56 |
| zear | there's no difference between the nanonote and a desktop linux pc | 06:57 |
| zear | you write your sdl in the same manner | 06:57 |
| zear | *your adl app\ | 06:57 |
| zear | *sdl | 06:57 |
| zear | as for the toolchain, xiangfu linked you the howto already | 06:57 |
| zear | it is a little complicated, i never mastered openwrt's toolchain | 06:58 |
| zear | though i'm sure the guys here will help you with it if you get stucked at some point | 06:58 |
| unclouded | there's a page on the wiki with a Hello-SDL example that shows how the OpenWRT toolchain can be used to compile your own SDL apps: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compiling_for_the_NanoNote | 07:06 |
| mth | larsc: jz_nand_ioremap_banks will remap the first num_banks banks, while those might not be the ones selected in the pdata | 08:03 |
| mth | for example, in the pdata I have ".banks = { 3 }", then bank 3 should be remapped, while bank 1 will be | 08:05 |
| mth | the resource name is correct, but bank_mem and bank_base are not | 08:05 |
| larsc | ai see | 08:06 |
| larsc | i | 08:06 |
| lekernel | http://www.adciv.org/ ("advanced civilization") | 09:48 |
| lekernel | ie economy of abundance through automation | 09:48 |
| lekernel | today it's just a bunch of talking ofc | 09:48 |
| urandom_ | lekernel interesting that http://www.adciv.org/ but they mistake is that they forget about history, they try to reinvent something which have already have been an idea for ages: communism | 09:55 |
| lekernel | yeah, but communism in its actual implementations was marked by technologic retards and lack of innovation | 09:57 |
| urandom_ | lekernel yeah but technologie wasnt really ready for communism at that time, also communism hasnt be implemented but socialism and socialism | 10:03 |
| lekernel | is it ready today? | 10:03 |
| lekernel | a lot of the stuff that the website presents isn't really working yet | 10:03 |
| urandom_ | partly yes | 10:03 |
| urandom_ | the problem is that capitalism blocks automatition in some cases cause human labor is very cheap in it | 10:04 |
| urandom_ | so we need socialism first | 10:05 |
| urandom_ | lekernel ever heared of cybersyn? | 10:05 |
| lekernel | nope | 10:06 |
| urandom_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersyn | 10:06 |
| urandom_ | very interesting stuff | 10:06 |
| zear | urandom_, sounds like a hoax | 10:14 |
| urandom_ | a hoax? | 10:14 |
| zear | only one reference link and the picture is obviously a part of a sci-fi movie scenography | 10:14 |
| urandom_ | no its not a hoax | 10:15 |
| zear | well, the picture is not real, at least | 10:16 |
| urandom_ | its real i think | 10:17 |
| zear | just look at that chairs | 10:17 |
| urandom_ | look here http://www.cybersyn.cl/ingles/cybersyn/index.html | 10:17 |
| zear | piece of plastic with fake geometric buttons | 10:17 |
| zear | and no wires | 10:17 |
| zear | also, the screens in the background look very fake | 10:17 |
| urandom_ | it says the room was futuristic, well doesnt mather, but cybersyn was real for sure, have read much about it | 10:19 |
| zear | no, the picture looks like from startrek | 10:19 |
| zear | according to the wiki the project was running in 1970-73 | 10:19 |
| zear | i don't think computers in that time were so advanced | 10:20 |
| zear | it rather looks like a part of a sci-fi movie scenography | 10:20 |
| urandom_ | zear there is lot of stuff about it to read vom different authors, it is real for sure | 10:21 |
| zear | i refuse to believe this photo depics a real control room of this computer | 10:22 |
| urandom_ | it is very impressive what they could do in 1970 so imagine what we could do now | 10:22 |
| zear | Where are punched cards? Where is a lot of control leds? | 10:22 |
| zear | yeah, hard to believe Chile could achieve such an advanced project in the 70s | 10:23 |
| zear | i claim it fake :P | 10:23 |
| urandom_ | zear read http://www.williambowles.info/sa/FanfareforEffectiveFreedom.pdf | 10:23 |
| zear | ok, that's a lot of text. And with references | 10:24 |
| zear | but i still think the picture is not real | 10:24 |
| zear | or it's at least a concept of a control room | 10:25 |
| zear | but it doesn't look functional at all | 10:25 |
| zear | especially with that silly geometric buttons | 10:25 |
| urandom_ | oh yeah it might just be concept, dont know, does it mather? cybersyn is real and cybersyn was fucking interesting and we should learn from it | 10:26 |
| zear | yes it does, the photo depicts something that can not be real | 10:26 |
| zear | *might not | 10:26 |
| urandom_ | ask here http://www.cybersyn.cl/ingles/contact.html for example if it is real if that is really brothering you so much | 10:28 |
| zear | not bothering me that much to ask them ;) | 10:28 |
| zear | just saying that to me the picture looks fake | 10:28 |
| zear | this is how control rooms looked like: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/jsc40/gallery/lores/S65-42424.jpg | 10:29 |
| zear | now compare that to that silly chair-computers | 10:29 |
| urandom_ | yeah in the U,S and A but Chile might have done different, they wanted to try new concepts | 10:30 |
| urandom_ | i cant imagine it looked like this or at least very futuristic | 10:31 |
| zear | but that chars don't make a sense | 10:32 |
| zear | *chairs | 10:32 |
| urandom_ | well they look kind of cool, also from what i read about how the control room was desgined it might have looked like this | 10:33 |
| urandom_ | zear http://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/page/normal/11088.html | 10:35 |
| urandom_ | read "While the Cybersyn control room looked futuristic and modern,....." | 10:36 |
| urandom_ | "For example, the flat panel projection screens used a series of slide projectors located behind the wall that were attached to the armrests of the chairs. When you pushed a button on the armrest, it would change the slide on the screen." | 10:36 |
| zear | urandom_, ok, maybe you're right and it is real | 10:37 |
| zear | but that picture will always look fake to me ;) | 10:37 |
| urandom_ | i dont care if it looks fake for you, i wanted to talk about cybersyn not if pictures are fake but yeah | 10:39 |
| zear | heh, don't mind me ;) | 10:46 |
| wpwrak | (1973) punch cards ... hmm ... considering that Multics started already in 1964, the PDP-11 was introduced in 1970 and also Unix saw the light of day that year, i wouldn't be so dimissive about 1973 technology :) | 11:41 |
| rafa | wpwrak: http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/misc/commodore_calcualtor_playboy_december_1973.jpg | 11:46 |
| rafa | :) | 11:46 |
| rafa | cheapear than nn | 11:47 |
| rafa | december 1973 | 11:47 |
| wpwrak | rafa: even has rechargable batteries ! :) | 11:48 |
| rafa | yeah, and you can return it within two weeks for a FULL refund | 11:50 |
| rafa | nice | 11:50 |
| wpwrak | and just three years later, this classic (i had one): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-30 | 11:53 |
| nebajoth | pfft | 11:54 |
| nebajoth | I haz abacus. | 11:54 |
| rafa | wpwrak: cool stuff :) | 11:54 |
| rafa | nebajoth: you are too old | 11:54 |
| rafa | :) | 11:54 |
| nebajoth | and it communicates with another abacus in my other home with two cans and a string | 11:54 |
| nebajoth | down which I shout modem sounds | 11:54 |
| nebajoth | which is how real men do it. | 11:55 |
| wpwrak | nebajoth: when i was young, the way to school was three hours through 2m of snow. uphill. both ways :) | 11:56 |
| rafa | wpwrak: and now people complain about the half an hour bus trip from home to school | 11:59 |
| Ornotermes | is there anyone working on a port of snes9x for openwrt? | 12:16 |
| rafa | Ornotermes: do you need the sources? | 12:39 |
| Ornotermes | no, i just wondered if someone was working on it, i use dingox binary but i dont like the keybinidings very much, and a native version cold maybe get a little better performance | 12:41 |
| Ornotermes | dingux* | 12:42 |
| rafa | Ornotermes: I asked you because we built a package for us. No the dingux version. So if you want those sources please tell us. For keys you will need to modify a few source code lines. No external config, sorry. | 12:43 |
| Ornotermes | well, why not, i can give it a try :) | 12:44 |
| rafa | http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/extra-packages/nanonote/ | 12:47 |
| rafa | the sources under sources/ :) .. the binary uses the fileselector | 12:47 |
| Ornotermes | hope i manage to build it :P | 12:49 |
| rafa | perhaps you can try the ipk package first.. no idea if that will be compatible | 12:49 |
| Ornotermes | i try that first then :) | 12:52 |
| Ornotermes | didn't work | 12:54 |
| Ornotermes | http://pastebin.com/DZzKS04X | 12:56 |
| Ornotermes | (same errors on snes9x) | 12:58 |
| rafa | Ornotermes: but you tried to install gtkedit, no snes | 12:59 |
| rafa | ah.. you mean that packages are not compatible.. | 13:00 |
| rafa | sorry | 13:00 |
| rafa | you will need to built your own snes9x then :) | 13:00 |
| Ornotermes | yes | 13:00 |
| Antaga | \_o< | 13:52 |
| himito | hi | 14:16 |
| Xakh | hey, you think it's possible to run quake mods on the nn version of quake? | 15:42 |
| Xakh | i have this sweet one from my android device, i kinda wanna run it on nn, though, it gets better framerates | 15:43 |
| urandom_ | yeah seem like i finally got a working openwrt toolchain :) | 17:52 |
| rejon | open source hardware is not copyleft hardware. :) | 18:21 |
| calamarz | trying matchbox on debian... someone has a xorg.conf handy? | 18:23 |
| wpwrak | rejon: you mean due to the lack of a replicator ? | 18:24 |
| mth | larsc: actually jz_nand_ioremap_banks seems to be correct, but jz_nand_select_chip had me confused by using the variable "chipnr" for two different things | 20:19 |
| mth | maybe that's even the bug: since nand->bank_base is already in chip order rather than bank order, there is no need for jz_nand_select_chip to apply the indirection again | 20:21 |
| mth | JZ_NAND_CTRL_ASSERT_CHIP requires a 0-based bank nr instead of a chip nr though | 20:23 |
| larsc | i do have a fix. i'll commit it tomorrow | 20:28 |
| mth | ok, then I'll stop trying to fix it | 20:28 |
| wolfspraul | larsc: hey there | 20:32 |
| wolfspraul | Mirko Vogt told me you guys found out that the Sungale ID800WT picture frame has no drive IC at all? | 20:33 |
| wolfspraul | how can this work... What does the drive IC actually do? | 20:33 |
| wolfspraul | I am trying to visit Ilitek soon to learn more about drive ICs, but this news puzzled me a bit :-) | 20:33 |
| larsc | there is a controller, but its config is static. | 20:34 |
| wolfspraul | do you know who makes this controller? | 20:35 |
| larsc | innolux i would guess | 20:36 |
| larsc | on the other hand the one on the gpm module was made by ilitek. so i have no idea | 20:38 |
| ezdagor | Anyone know what lowlevel LCD driver the NanoNote uses? | 22:19 |
| kristianpaul | wait a min | 22:35 |
| ezdagor | Thanks. | 22:43 |
| ezdagor | The generic driver doesn't work. Graphical programs don't display the colors properly. | 22:43 |
| kristianpaul | ezdagor: i think is here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/ | 22:48 |
| kristianpaul | just digging | 22:48 |
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