qi-commits | Xiangfu Liu: [new package] Rubén Berenguel's ports http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cb4bdc4 | 00:43 |
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qi-commits | Xiangfu Liu: [imgv] MKAE_VARS is better http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f2346b6 | 00:43 |
zear | article about nn on polish edition of linuxnews: http://linuxnews.pl/komputer-w-pelni-open-source/ | 04:39 |
zear | there's a lot of hatred in the comments, as expected ;) | 04:40 |
wolfspraul | he | 04:41 |
wolfspraul | zear: can you give us some highlights? | 04:41 |
wolfspraul | zear: btw, the other day you asked about growth of community and I didn't answer before you left | 04:42 |
zear | they say there are cheaper netbooks with better hardware | 04:42 |
wolfspraul | so I think it's mixed | 04:42 |
wolfspraul | of course I am super happy about all the support | 04:42 |
wolfspraul | I mean it's scary actually | 04:42 |
wolfspraul | OpenWrt, Debian, JLiMe | 04:42 |
zear | and generally, blah blah, 320x240, slow cpu, no net, high price | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | also the copyleft hardware wiki keeps growing with what is important | 04:43 |
zear | and they also make references to openmoko's failure ;) | 04:43 |
zear | ah, great to hear that | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | and I do see very very respectable people join our community | 04:43 |
zear | that's good too | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | Marc Zonzon, Ruben, nebajoth, Jirka, etc. | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | just look what they contribute, it'a amazing | 04:43 |
zear | btw, do all the ports need to be incorporated in the openwrt? | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | of course we are working on that | 04:43 |
wolfspraul | 'need to be' I don't know | 04:44 |
zear | i really don't like how owrt forces me to modify the makefiles to be able to compile them | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | but I think it would be cool to make them more accessible | 04:44 |
zear | but i'd like to have a standalone toolchain i can just compile apps with | 04:44 |
zear | if i had something like that, i'd port all the dingux games/emulators right away | 04:44 |
larsc | they don't need to be, but it's nice to have, because everybody can easyly build the package themself then | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | now we have Milkymist One coming up, a big challenge | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | people need to get the whole FPGA thing | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | how it fits together in the long run | 04:44 |
larsc | and it can be part of the standard distro | 04:44 |
wolfspraul | we need to survive to make it to Ya NanoNote | 04:44 |
zear | there problem with incorporating everything into owrt is, a lot of stuff (from dingux, at least) are forks and crude hacks of the vanilla sources | 04:45 |
zear | and they are one-time-only ports | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | zear: so bottom line, please continue supporting us | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | every tiny bit helps | 04:45 |
zear | with no hope for updates by merging them with vanilla sources | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | in return we continue to spend our last pennies to open up more :-) | 04:45 |
zear | :D | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | but it's a fun ride, really | 04:45 |
wolfspraul | I learn so much | 04:45 |
zear | i hope it's not a financial suicide | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | I mean I really do believe in the strength of free software. | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | so those comments - to me all irrelevant | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | they all just compare HW specs | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | so what | 04:46 |
zear | yeah, but we also need the popularity | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | we have, today, 2.6.32 running | 04:46 |
zear | people who write the articles need to understand NN is not a full feature laptop | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | 2.6.34 is coming to an image very soon | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | that is unbelievable | 04:46 |
zear | we should make that clear on the wiki (if we didn't do it already) | 04:46 |
wolfspraul | we have the picture on the hand now | 04:47 |
zear | because every time i see an article it says "a mini laptop" | 04:47 |
wolfspraul | at least the size proportions should be clear now | 04:47 |
zear | and people expect it to run windows with crysis | 04:47 |
zear | and when they hear it's a mipsel linux thing, they start to complain | 04:47 |
wolfspraul | so to those guys that say it only has 32 MB ram, or lacking USB host etc. I say I am running 2.6.32 in my image today, and 2.6.34 is almost in an image (lars has it running of course) | 04:47 |
zear | because they expected windows | 04:47 |
wolfspraul | that is innovation in this project | 04:47 |
wolfspraul | not whether we are the first to have 1ghz | 04:47 |
zear | i don't want it to have 1ghz | 04:48 |
zear | i want it to be the way it is now - a tiny pc with limited usage | 04:48 |
wolfspraul | he | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | I think we can get a lot more out of it | 04:49 |
zear | i can run a dictionary and a music player on it, and i'm very happy with that | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | of course the portability will stay | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | 126g | 04:49 |
zear | we just need to get wikireader and i'll be in heaven ) | 04:49 |
zear | *:) | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | we will | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | there are many good things in motion, really I think software is coming along nicely | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | zear: what do you think? | 04:49 |
zear | and yeah, ya really needs a way of wireless communication | 04:49 |
wolfspraul | all those people that help porting apps, really good support from openwrt, 2.6.34 work | 04:50 |
zear | well,i think there is a progress with the software, but it's not a revolution | 04:50 |
zear | we need a good standalone toolchain so people can start porting stuff | 04:50 |
wolfspraul | fair enough, but I think it will continue like this | 04:50 |
wolfspraul | zear: I think OpenWrt can create an 'SDK' never tried it though | 04:50 |
wolfspraul | is that a stand-alone toolchain? | 04:51 |
zear | by a stand-alone toolchain i mean a toolchain with a set of basic libs you can put into /opt, export the PATH variable and start compiling | 04:51 |
zear | with no need for Makefile hacks ;) | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | zear: can you post a comment in Polish to that site just telling them what you think of it as an owner and that they can buy from tuxbrain.com in the EU? | 04:52 |
zear | just ./configure --host=mipsel-linux --target=mipsel-linux and you're done | 04:52 |
zear | yes, i posted it already | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | oh, great | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | thanks a lot | 04:52 |
zear | though it needs to be accepted by the mods, as i just registered | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | we should not over-promise | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | much better to lower expectations to zero | 04:52 |
wolfspraul | it's really only for people that are quite technical today, like the original theregister post said a 'dedicated vi device' | 04:53 |
zear | i explained in that post that nanonote is more of a PIM/notepad/music player/dictionary than a full feature laptop | 04:53 |
larsc | zear: if you need makefile hacks, the makefile is broken anyway ;) | 04:53 |
wolfspraul | I can stand behind that any day. it is a dedicated vi device. :-) and a good one | 04:53 |
zear | and also mentioned it is binary compatible with dingoo a320, so can run all the games/emus for that platform | 04:53 |
wolfspraul | zear: have you ever tried to download and build the openwrt sources? | 04:53 |
zear | yes, i have it ready on my hdd | 04:53 |
larsc | zear: projects which use autotools should work out of the box btw. | 04:53 |
wolfspraul | I see this 'SDK' option in menuconfig, not sure what it is but maybe it's what you want? | 04:53 |
zear | though i never managed to successfully build anything with it | 04:54 |
zear | because the toolchain is didived into two different, unstandard dirs | 04:54 |
zear | and ./configure can't find the libs, etc | 04:54 |
zear | *divided | 04:54 |
zear | btw, more and more people from the dingoo community get their nanonotes | 04:56 |
wolfspraul | nice | 04:56 |
zear | we have about 8-10 people with nn in dingoo community now | 04:56 |
wolfspraul | wow, happy to hear that | 04:56 |
wolfspraul | can you tell them about this IRC channel? | 04:56 |
wolfspraul | also the mailing list | 04:56 |
zear | yep, though they should be already aware of that | 04:57 |
zear | some of them are already | 04:57 |
zear | i mean, some of them already visit the irc | 04:58 |
zear | like darfgarf or xdpirate | 04:58 |
zear | or wejp :) | 04:58 |
kyak | zear: there is a thing, crosstool, from www.kegel.com/crosstool/. I've managed to create a toolchain to mipsel with it and successfully run the "hello world" on my linksys router | 05:32 |
kyak | so you could try that.. to avoid hacking openwrt makefiles | 05:32 |
zear | kyak, well, i can already use the dingux toolchain | 05:33 |
zear | and it produces working binaries | 05:33 |
kyak | isn't this what you want? | 05:33 |
zear | but i want the same set of libs that's in the owrt | 05:33 |
zear | i want exactly the same thing so there are no compatibility problems and programs compiled with it are optimized for nanonote's hardware | 05:34 |
kyak | i see, then you'll need to stick to openwrt anyway | 05:36 |
zear | well, it would be enough for the devs to maintain a standalone toolchain | 05:37 |
killi | I ordered my NN on friday, anyone know how long order processing takes? It is still pending:) | 08:56 |
larsc | where did you order? | 08:57 |
killi | sharism.cc | 08:57 |
xiangfu | killi: Hi I will ask other people in sharism.cc about your order. what is your email? we can send email when we got some result. | 09:07 |
qwebirc49195 | is there any way to stream music off the net to the nanonote (through usb or something)? | 11:29 |
kristianpaul | ERROR:HDLCompilers:26 - "../../../../cores/lm32/rtl/lm32_icache.v" line 101 unexpected token: '$clog2' | 12:30 |
kristianpaul | ops | 12:30 |
emeb | w00t - my nanonote has shipped. | 12:38 |
xdpirate | 07 Jun 2010 16:37:01 Oslo Shipment Released From Customs. | 15:09 |
xdpirate | finally, we've got progress! | 15:09 |
xdpirate | :P | 15:09 |
kristianpaul | :) | 15:10 |
xdpirate | What does qi-eggs do? | 15:13 |
xdpirate | qi-commits is pretty self-explainatory, but qi-eggs? =P | 15:14 |
jd823592 | hello, i am looking for an open netbook/laptop (like touchbook) does anyone know about the choices i have? | 16:02 |
alextybob60 | Hi | 17:25 |
alextybob60 | i have a few problems with my computer | 17:25 |
alextybob60 | http://pastebin.ca/1878686 | 17:25 |
alextybob60 | problems written there ^^^^ | 17:26 |
tuxbrain_away | mmm alex I have read well but your asking for suport for windows instalation on the copyleft hardware channel ? | 17:27 |
alextybob60 | this the wrong place? | 17:28 |
tuxbrain | to be short yes | 17:29 |
alextybob60 | shall i /part? | 17:29 |
tuxbrain | not you are wellcome to stay :) but don't expecte to be helped in that matters | 17:30 |
alextybob60 | ok | 17:30 |
alextybob60 | fair enough | 17:30 |
zedstar | that was fairly random | 17:32 |
tuxbrain | zedstar: yeah , I'm so sleppy than until your message I believe I has felt sleep on the keyboard having a a bizarre "lucid dream" (lucid dream->dreams that you know you are dreaming) | 17:38 |
tuxbrain | I think I better go to search a real dream at my loved bed and pillow, space bar is not so comfortable | 17:41 |
zedstar | tuxbrain lol | 17:41 |
DocScrutinizer | wolfspraul: you pinged me | 20:42 |
wolfspraul | DocScrutinizer: hah, yes | 20:42 |
wolfspraul | how are you? | 20:42 |
wolfspraul | we didn't chat in a while | 20:42 |
DocScrutinizer | yesterday sick, today in foul mood - but nvm | 20:42 |
DocScrutinizer | quite busy with a few silly projects for N900 | 20:43 |
wolfspraul | well that's nice | 20:43 |
DocScrutinizer | how's Qi, and how are you? | 20:43 |
wolfspraul | things are moving | 20:44 |
wolfspraul | Ben NanoNote is selling | 20:44 |
wolfspraul | software improving | 20:44 |
DocScrutinizer | :-) | 20:44 |
wolfspraul | SAKC is slow but steady, once I have a board there I will make sure to get you one | 20:44 |
wolfspraul | the other fpga-based computer we are working on is also moving, Milkymist One | 20:45 |
wolfspraul | that's the link I wanted to send you | 20:45 |
wolfspraul | DocScrutinizer: we have some pretty cool documentation about the SMT process now, see http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One_SMT/DIP_Process_Flow | 20:45 |
wolfspraul | just wanted to show you | 20:45 |
DocScrutinizer | aah, fine :) | 20:46 |
emeb | wolfspraul: saw the SAKC stuff the other day. I've got something similar for beagle: http://members.cox.net/ebrombaugh1/embedded/beagle/beagle_fpga.html | 20:52 |
wolfspraul | nice, beautiful work, congratulations! | 20:53 |
wolfspraul | I fully share your motivation, SDR work etc. | 20:53 |
wolfspraul | great! | 20:53 |
emeb | thanks. FPGAs don't get enough love from hobbyists | 20:54 |
wolfspraul | there are too few free software fpga projects, we have to change it | 20:54 |
emeb | seems a lot of OSS types rebel against the closed FPGA tools full stop. | 20:54 |
wolfspraul | hmm | 20:55 |
wolfspraul | some dp | 20:55 |
wolfspraul | some do | 20:55 |
wolfspraul | I wouldn't spend a second of thought on that. | 20:55 |
emeb | Doesn't bother me in the least. | 20:56 |
wolfspraul | let the proprietary silicon under them grow | 20:56 |
wolfspraul | emeb: do you know the Milkymist project? | 20:56 |
emeb | Got it up on the browser as we speak. | 20:56 |
wolfspraul | it's a GPL licensed SoC around a LatticeMico32 core | 20:56 |
emeb | Hmm - text says Spartan6? | 20:57 |
wolfspraul | yes | 20:57 |
wolfspraul | emeb: also the Elphel cameras, do you know those? used for Google book scanning and street view | 20:57 |
emeb | Was looking at the Elphel stuff the other day. | 20:58 |
wolfspraul | but the important thing is all code in the FPGA is GPL licensed, which is the stuff that talks to the CMOS/CCD sensor | 20:58 |
emeb | That's handy. | 20:58 |
wolfspraul | we are trying to combine all this free tech into consumer products - copyleft hardware | 20:58 |
wolfspraul | so far so good, moving :-) | 20:58 |
wolfspraul | still alive | 20:58 |
emeb | low-end FPGAs are cheap enough ($10 range) that they're quite practical for small projects | 20:58 |
wolfspraul | people are lining up 2 blocks for the iPad, we sell one by one, but it's fun | 20:58 |
emeb | I was interested that you've got such a wide parallel link between MCU <> FPGA on SAKC. | 20:59 |
emeb | Must help with fast comms between | 21:00 |
emeb | the two | 21:00 |
wolfspraul | he, I don't even know the details about that | 21:00 |
emeb | Ah - HW details not your bailiwick? | 21:00 |
wolfspraul | I try to keep the business running, so as soon as there is someone I trust I 'outsource' everything to that person. | 21:00 |
wolfspraul | plus I'm an ex-software guy | 21:01 |
wolfspraul | but on hardware, I consult with people like DocScrutinizer, or in the case of SAKC it's Carlos Camargo | 21:01 |
wolfspraul | if they say it's good, move forward, then I move forward | 21:01 |
wolfspraul | so far they haven't killed me yet | 21:01 |
emeb | Aha. So how's the business structured? | 21:01 |
wolfspraul | it's the only business in the world where all employees work for free and have to bring money each morning, together with their lunch packs | 21:02 |
wolfspraul | :-) | 21:02 |
emeb | Been there. :) | 21:02 |
wolfspraul | we are just a small team of people enthousiastic about the idea of making hardware that is really in line and tailored towards free software | 21:02 |
wolfspraul | and we try to build it bottom-up, i.e. making simple functioning products asap and selling them | 21:02 |
wolfspraul | so far we sold about 750-800 Ben NanoNote, for example | 21:03 |
emeb | Ah - you're behind the Nanonote? | 21:03 |
emeb | Just ordered one Fri - should get it Thurs if FedEx is to be believed. | 21:03 |
wolfspraul | nice | 21:05 |
wolfspraul | thank you! | 21:05 |
emeb | Looks like a nice upgrade to my old Agenda VR3 | 21:06 |
wolfspraul | hopefully you like it, stop by in this channel and tell us | 21:06 |
emeb | Will do. Looks like there's a bit to learn about it which is the fun part for me... | 21:07 |
wolfspraul | yes, agreed | 21:07 |
wolfspraul | with your interest in fpgas, hopefully we can do more together in the future | 21:07 |
emeb | that sounds like fun. | 21:07 |
emeb | I've got lots of little projects over on that website, some with FPGAs, various audio things. Wide-ranging interests... | 21:08 |
wolfspraul | good I will check it | 21:09 |
emeb | Seems I need to drill down into the content on the qi-hardware site too. | 21:10 |
emeb | Well - nice chatting. I'll see you around... | 21:10 |
wolfspraul | please do, yes | 21:10 |
wolfspraul | I am thinking about a camera like Elphel, just leave the CPU out | 21:11 |
wolfspraul | so basically just CMOS sensor + Spartan-6 | 21:11 |
emeb | That could work... | 21:11 |
wolfspraul | the stream it down via Ethernet | 21:11 |
wolfspraul | anyway, nice to chat with you too | 21:12 |
wolfspraul | emeb: do you have a blog, some rss/atom feed for our planet? | 21:22 |
emeb | wolfspraul: sorry - just that website. | 21:26 |
wolfspraul | ok, I will just add a new section 'free software FPGA projects' to a wiki page, maybe http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Planet | 21:29 |
wolfspraul | have to collect these projects somewhere, maybe other lists already exist, but can't hurt | 21:30 |
wolfspraul | emeb: do you have a list? | 21:30 |
wolfspraul | GPL (or other FOSS) licensed FPGA projects? | 21:30 |
emeb | wolfspraul: honestly I haven't given much thought to the licensing on these projects. I suppose some sort of GPL would apply though. | 21:32 |
emeb | I probably ought to refresh all those projects with words to that effect & license details. | 21:33 |
emeb | But - to answer your question: Yes I can build a list for you. | 21:33 |
kristianpaul | oh you are suing gEDA :) | 21:35 |
kristianpaul | s/suing/using | 21:35 |
emeb | kristianpaul: yes | 21:35 |
kristianpaul | cheers | 21:35 |
kristianpaul | few people use it | 21:36 |
kristianpaul | at least people i know use such us tolls | 21:36 |
emeb | Works well for my purposes. Keeps getting better. | 21:36 |
kristianpaul | s/tolls/tools | 21:36 |
emeb | I suppose if one were doing large multi-layer boards it might not be ideal though. | 21:36 |
kristianpaul | i was about to ask that | 21:37 |
emeb | Works well for 2 layers. 4 layers is probably OK too. | 21:38 |
emeb | but I've not tried 4. For my day job though I've worked on boards that were 10+ layers and I don't think it would work well for that. | 21:39 |
kristianpaul | what you think about kicad? | 21:40 |
emeb | I've never used it. | 21:41 |
kristianpaul | ok | 21:41 |
emeb | gotta go - nice chatting... | 21:41 |
kristianpaul | ok bye | 21:42 |
kristianpaul | btw the list will nice | 21:43 |
Action: kristianpaul reads http://members.cox.net/ebrombaugh1/synth/index.html | 21:44 | |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: can you help start a 'free software FPGA projects' list in our wiki? | 21:47 |
kristianpaul | wolfspraul: hey sure | 21:47 |
kristianpaul | wait | 21:47 |
wolfspraul | should we have a new page for that or add it to an existing page? | 21:47 |
kristianpaul | new i think | 21:47 |
kristianpaul | if there is no one yet? | 21:48 |
wolfspraul | I think with the various FPGA projects coming up such a list will make more and more sense. | 21:48 |
wolfspraul | I doubt it | 21:48 |
wolfspraul | we have some SAKC pages | 21:48 |
kristianpaul | there is need for FPGA projects indeed | 21:48 |
kristianpaul | http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Free_software_FPGA_projects | 21:49 |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: nice | 21:55 |
kristianpaul | wolfspraul: http://www.gaisler.com/cms/ | 22:11 |
wolfspraul | ah yes, the LEON CPUs, nice | 22:17 |
kristianpaul | oh http://www.staticfreesoft.com/ | 22:17 |
kristianpaul | :) | 22:40 |
kristianpaul | i just ordered 10 Hoperf modules .D | 22:40 |
Action: kristianpaul have plans to get telemetry for trafic lighs in his town | 22:41 | |
wolfspraul | kristianpaul: wow nice! | 22:45 |
wolfspraul | I am very interested in those modules | 22:46 |
kristianpaul | me too | 22:46 |
wolfspraul | where did you order them? how much do you pay for shipping? which ones exactly do you order? | 22:46 |
wolfspraul | how do you plan to hook them up? | 22:46 |
wolfspraul | which software stack? | 22:46 |
wolfspraul | we need to talk about it at Campus Party | 22:46 |
kristianpaul | i order 10 x RFM12B-433S1 433MHZ band Fsk transceiver module SMD(S1) ROHS | 22:46 |
wolfspraul | I really want to get them into the Ya NanoNote - SlowFi | 22:47 |
kristianpaul | 2 x H28 SMD IC H28 ROHS | 22:47 |
kristianpaul | shipping was 35usd DHL | 22:47 |
wolfspraul | ouch | 22:47 |
wolfspraul | more than the modules | 22:47 |
kristianpaul | i order from DHL | 22:47 |
kristianpaul | wolfspraul: yes but cheaper that sparkfunb | 22:47 |
kristianpaul | moudles costs 25 | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | any ay i cheap | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | s/ay/way | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | s/i/is | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | sofware stucj dont know yet | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | i saw some examples for pics microcontrolers wich i have acess to | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | here atmel is kinf expensive | 22:48 |
kristianpaul | hook as the examples said | 22:49 |
kristianpaul | i also need buy 10 pics 18F2250 and batteries | 22:49 |
kristianpaul | well i need more stuff | 22:49 |
kristianpaul | the idea is to have 10 of this units working | 22:49 |
kristianpaul | ans see how interect | 22:49 |
wolfspraul | what do you hook them up to? | 22:50 |
wolfspraul | which CPU? | 22:50 |
wolfspraul | or microcontroller? | 22:50 |
kristianpaul | PIC18F2550 from Microchhip | 22:50 |
kristianpaul | i plan hook to the nano as soon i assemled it | 22:50 |
kristianpaul | i also plan get GPS cordenates of the town | 22:50 |
kristianpaul | wich finally i make gps work :) | 22:50 |
kristianpaul | not wich nano yet, i still need solve some wire up issues | 22:51 |
kristianpaul | but is close | 22:51 |
kristianpaul | at least i know the GPS works and well up to 2 hrs | 22:51 |
wolfspraul | oh nice | 22:51 |
wolfspraul | so one sec | 22:51 |
wolfspraul | you hook up GPS to Ben NanoNote? | 22:51 |
wolfspraul | that I knew already, and it's fantastic! | 22:51 |
wolfspraul | how about HopeRF? also hook up to NanoNote? | 22:52 |
kristianpaul | wolfspraul: i did but still havinf problems with my custom wire up | 22:52 |
kristianpaul | i also was fixing the reprap with no luck so i stoped with the nano, but i know time is getting short i need fixs lots things here | 22:53 |
kristianpaul | wolfspraul: no directly | 22:53 |
kristianpaul | well yday were discussing here with lars_ about free gpio pins | 22:53 |
wolfspraul | no rush, push the NanoNote back, we get things done step by step and cparty preparations are more important I understand | 22:54 |
wolfspraul | I will try to visit hoperf again, maybe next week | 22:54 |
kristianpaul | but i think is better use a small MCU and uart if this get enought tested | 22:54 |
wolfspraul | before I come down to Colombia | 22:54 |
wolfspraul | if you have questions, I can ask. if you need samples, I can buy and bring with me. | 22:54 |
kristianpaul | i need 10 pics18F2250 cheap :) | 22:54 |
kristianpaul | or avr whateevr i need 10 | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | thats my next task | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | about RF | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | the last is solar power | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | i saw some modlues in sparkfun | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | so i can place the modules and feed it for free | 22:55 |
wolfspraul | can the hoperf modules be hooked up with uart? | 22:55 |
wolfspraul | I thought it's spi only | 22:55 |
kristianpaul | yes | 22:56 |
kristianpaul | thats why a small MCU need to that work | 22:56 |
kristianpaul | in case hoperf could be hookup with the nanonote | 22:57 |
wolfspraul | ah I see | 22:57 |
kristianpaul | my bet is | 22:57 |
wolfspraul | well you know the details best, if I can help you with sourcing I would love to do that | 22:57 |
wolfspraul | email me what you need, I can try | 22:57 |
kristianpaul | hoperf + pic (low low powe consuption) + gpio + ad + solar power | 22:57 |
kristianpaul | s/ad/ADC | 22:58 |
wolfspraul | ad = ? | 22:58 |
wolfspraul | what is this device good for? | 22:58 |
kristianpaul | wich? | 22:58 |
wolfspraul | hoperf+pic+gpio+adc+solar | 22:58 |
kristianpaul | telemetry i bet at fiest | 22:59 |
kristianpaul | "SMS" passing | 22:59 |
kristianpaul | i want for remote monitoring of traffic light system | 22:59 |
kristianpaul | but i general text messaging will based | 22:59 |
kristianpaul | later i can see what other stacks fit | 23:00 |
kristianpaul | but if can broadcast test will be nice | 23:00 |
kristianpaul | even more if "this device" will be apart from the other and so on | 23:00 |
kristianpaul | like mesh but i dont know if will work | 23:00 |
kristianpaul | well i'm off bed | 23:04 |
kristianpaul | gn8 al | 23:04 |
kristianpaul | all | 23:04 |
wolfspraul | 'night | 23:08 |
rafa_ | hello, short question geeks.. : | 23:40 |
rafa_ | is there some /sys/.../file to suspend the whole nn or to turn it off? | 23:41 |
wolfspraul | rafa_: I think there is, but don't know which one... | 23:46 |
wolfspraul | both suspend and turn off I think | 23:46 |
rafa_ | wolfspraul: I want to config power on/off button in Jlime to suspend perhaps | 23:47 |
rafa_ | wolfspraul: btw, jlime distro is starting to look nice ;) | 23:48 |
rafa_ | no GUI yet, but main rootfs is already configured (networking, opkg, etc) | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer | ohnoes, still the notorious opkg? ;-P | 23:53 |
wolfspraul | rafa_: nice | 23:54 |
rafa_ | DocScrutinizer: yeah, we use it in Jlime | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | X-D | 23:56 |
rafa_ | you would like to use apt-get ? | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | I feel it's somewhat saner | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | though I not really got any idea about it | 23:56 |
rafa_ | try debian in nn and run apt-get install quake | 23:56 |
rafa_ | :) | 23:56 |
rafa_ | your system will freeze ;) | 23:57 |
DocScrutinizer | hmm, why that? | 23:57 |
rafa_ | nn has 32 MB of ram | 23:57 |
DocScrutinizer | apt/cache overflow? | 23:57 |
DocScrutinizer | mhm | 23:57 |
rafa_ | the package systems need huge amount of ram to work | 23:57 |
DocScrutinizer | no swap? | 23:57 |
rafa_ | you can add 32 or 64MB of swap.. but you will feel the same | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer | sorry no NN here | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer | opkg upgrade had similar problems iirc | 23:59 |
rafa_ | ipk was born because the problems with rpm/apt in systems with few ram | 23:59 |
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