| kristoffer | wolfspraul, Couldnt there be an meter of som sort on the webpage stating number of bens sold? | 05:12 |
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| jluis | tuxbrain: have you seen http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/david-reyes-samblas-martinez/ | 06:05 |
| wolfspraul | kristoffer: bens sold :-) | 06:38 |
| wolfspraul | I think it's roughly 700 now | 06:38 |
| wolfspraul | not so easy to make a meter, there are also distributor with stock | 06:39 |
| rafa | xiangfu: yeah, I cloned it | 07:52 |
| xiangfu | rafa: here is how to compile uboot in openwrt : http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Bootloader#Compile | 08:43 |
| xdpirate | Hiya! I'm thinking of getting a NanoNote, anyone available to answer a couple of questions? :) | 09:27 |
| zear | me :) | 09:29 |
| xdpirate | look it's zear | 09:30 |
| xdpirate | nvm then | 09:30 |
| xdpirate | xD | 09:30 |
| zear | ;P | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | first off | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | do programs compiled for dingux run without recompiling them for the ben? | 09:31 |
| zear | most of them | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | since it's basically the same platform | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | sweet | 09:31 |
| zear | some of the emulators don't | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | is sdl ported to it? | 09:31 |
| zear | don't know what is the problem | 09:31 |
| zear | yes | 09:31 |
| xdpirate | sweet | 09:32 |
| zear | but many dingux apps are statically linked | 09:32 |
| zear | so they use their own sdl libs | 09:32 |
| xdpirate | true | 09:32 |
| xdpirate | this might sound odd, but are you able to use the toolchain for it on the device itself? | 09:32 |
| xdpirate | (code and compile on the go!) | 09:32 |
| zear | theoretically yes | 09:33 |
| zear | but i don't think somebody ported gcc for it | 09:33 |
| zear | yet | 09:33 |
| xdpirate | ah | 09:33 |
| xdpirate | cos it would be sweet if i was somewhere w/o access to a computer, code little snippets and compile them :P | 09:33 |
| zear | yep | 09:34 |
| zear | but the compilation time would be long | 09:34 |
| xdpirate | does it have good battery life? something a la the dingoo? | 09:34 |
| zear | it uses a standard nokia battery | 09:34 |
| xdpirate | how many mAh is on the battery? | 09:34 |
| zear | so it depends on the battery | 09:35 |
| xdpirate | ah | 09:35 |
| xdpirate | the old fat ones or the newer flat ones? | 09:35 |
| zear | the one that comes with it is 850mAh | 09:35 |
| xdpirate | got a few of those lying around from busted old phones | 09:35 |
| tuxbrain | opening a nanonote to answer the batteries | 09:35 |
| zear | this one: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compatible_batteries | 09:35 |
| tuxbrain | li-ion 850mAh | 09:36 |
| xdpirate | sweet, i guess 850 mAh is good enough for a terminal emulator :3 | 09:36 |
| tuxbrain | arround 6-7 hours of working time | 09:36 |
| xdpirate | perfect | 09:36 |
| xdpirate | even if i can't compile on the device, i'd like to code on the go, is there a text-editor with syntax highlighting? | 09:37 |
| tuxbrain | regarding compilation, Debian distribution can compile just "apt-get install build-essential" | 09:37 |
| kyak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apOUKCa4YWg - liked the video.. there is debian on this NN, so i guess, gcc is ported automatically | 09:37 |
| xdpirate | that sounds great | 09:38 |
| xdpirate | any disadvantages of using debian instead of openwrt? | 09:39 |
| tuxbrain | kyak:thanks :) | 09:39 |
| tuxbrain | debian is BIG | 09:39 |
| kyak | tuxbrain: that's your video, isn't it? :) | 09:39 |
| tuxbrain | Openwrt is light | 09:39 |
| xdpirate | i see | 09:39 |
| xdpirate | i'd probably use debian if it can compile tho ;) | 09:40 |
| tuxbrain | kyak: yep :) proud true metal power of steel | 09:40 |
| xdpirate | on the wiki it says it's got "USB device", is this a usb host enabled port? | 09:40 |
| tuxbrain | xdpirate: when the next uboot release I'm thinking on a perfect solution of having debian on SD and openwrt on flash | 09:41 |
| xdpirate | connecting a mini-mouse would be icing on the cake | 09:41 |
| zear | xdpirate, it's the same deal as the dingoo | 09:41 |
| tuxbrain | no usb host | 09:41 |
| xdpirate | tuxbrain, nice :D | 09:41 |
| xdpirate | aw, ok | 09:41 |
| xdpirate | well, doesn't matter too much, I'm fine with just the keyboard | 09:41 |
| xdpirate | is overclocking the processor possible? | 09:42 |
| xdpirate | nvm, found out by googling | 09:44 |
| xdpirate | zear, are the keyboard buttons clicky like the a320s shoulder buttons? :p | 09:47 |
| tuxbrain | xdpirate: playing with clock is posible but not recomended, example LCD at low rates start flikering, and higher rates can just burn something . doen't worth the risk for a hundred of Mhz | 09:47 |
| zear | hell no, they're a good quality | 09:47 |
| xdpirate | zear, awesome, and tuxbrain, i see, i won't be doing that then :P | 09:48 |
| xdpirate | well it's settled then | 09:48 |
| tuxbrain | overall quality of the device is really nice, sems more german than chinese :P | 09:48 |
| xdpirate | i'm getting one ^^ | 09:48 |
| zear | tuxbrain, can you clock the cpu only, without lcd and so on? | 09:48 |
| tuxbrain | Don't know, lars is your man :P | 09:49 |
| zear | or maybe the flickerings are because gmenu2x uses jz4740 overclock code | 09:50 |
| zear | instead of jz4720 | 09:50 |
| zear | because i just made a straight port from the dingoo, leaving the cpu code intact | 09:50 |
| xdpirate | did ya'll buy the nn from sharism.cc? | 09:52 |
| tuxbrain | where ar you from? | 09:54 |
| xdpirate | me? norway | 09:54 |
| zear | xdpirate, hard to tell, i bought a dev model, long before sharims was selling them | 09:54 |
| zear | it came directly from china | 09:54 |
| xdpirate | nice | 09:55 |
| xdpirate | $40 shipping :< | 09:55 |
| tuxbrain | you can buy at tuxbrain.com | 09:55 |
| xdpirate | tuxbrain, how much is the shipping? | 09:56 |
| tuxbrain | let me check | 09:56 |
| tuxbrain | 14.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬ not vat or customs feeds included | 10:04 |
| tuxbrain | Norway is not part of EU, so you will have to pay your local taxes on arrival | 10:05 |
| xdpirate | wait what, your product page says €99 for the unit? =P | 10:05 |
| xdpirate | electronics are duty free | 10:05 |
| tuxbrain | 99 with Vat included | 10:05 |
| tuxbrain | so then your are lucky | 10:05 |
| xdpirate | €99 + €14.12 = €113.12 ~= $138.15 | 10:07 |
| xdpirate | on sharism.cc it's $136.41 x] | 10:07 |
| tuxbrain | not, without Vat is 85.34¬ | 10:07 |
| xdpirate | but i'm paying vat? | 10:07 |
| xdpirate | to you | 10:07 |
| tuxbrain | your are not from EU | 10:07 |
| mstevens | tuxbrain: how's nanonote sales going? | 10:08 |
| tuxbrain | :) slowering better and better but not to buy a ferrary yet _P | 10:09 |
| tuxbrain | :P | 10:09 |
| xdpirate | so, what are you actually charging for it? i'll handle duties and taxes here if applicable | 10:09 |
| tuxbrain | 4.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬ | 10:10 |
| xdpirate | so that's the grand total, yeah? | 10:10 |
| tuxbrain | sorry 14.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬ | 10:10 |
| tuxbrain | 99.46¬ | 10:10 |
| xdpirate | yeah, it's cheaper than sharism then :3 | 10:11 |
| xdpirate | i might buy one in the coming days | 10:11 |
| xdpirate | do you provide a tracking number btw? | 10:11 |
| tuxbrain | remember me in the order comments and I will send it to you by mail | 10:12 |
| mstevens | tuxbrain: that photo on your site of many nanonotes is a bad influence, I keep wanting to buy enough to recreate it | 10:12 |
| tuxbrain | hehehe :) I can offer you a big order discount ;) | 10:14 |
| xdpirate | ok tuxbrain, i normally don't trust these random internet shops without checking them out extensively first, but it seems like you know what you're talking about, and you're a proper reseller instead of a scammer ;) | 10:17 |
| mstevens | xdpirate: I bought a nanonote from tuxbrain and it turned up! | 10:18 |
| xdpirate | rofl, awesome | 10:19 |
| mstevens | I think his order status notification emails are a bit cryptic from what I remember, but otherwise no problems,. | 10:19 |
| xdpirate | lawl, as long as i get a tracking number i'm fine :3 | 10:20 |
| zear | xdpirate, i got from tuxbrain an unrelated item (wiz) and it came in the next day :) | 10:20 |
| sanderr | xdpirate: I bought one from tuxbrain too, and it showed up in 2 working days. | 10:20 |
| tuxbrain | xdpirate: glad giving you that impresion :) | 10:20 |
| xdpirate | >:D | 10:20 |
| xdpirate | alrighty so yeah, i'm ordering one right now | 10:21 |
| sanderr | Woohoo, another NN out in the wild. :) | 10:21 |
| xdpirate | :P | 10:21 |
| tuxbrain | cool :) one more to the hacking party | 10:22 |
| zear | one less from your storehouse :D | 10:22 |
| xdpirate | hehe | 10:23 |
| zear | tuxbrain, are they selling well? | 10:23 |
| mstevens | I'm tempted to buy a lemote at the moment but I don't think I can quite afford it | 10:23 |
| tuxbrain | just to not be dissapointed at first boot, the OS that comes by default is a little bit old, you should better reflash to the last image release | 10:23 |
| xdpirate | yeah i'll probably be smacking debian on it, first thing | 10:23 |
| mstevens | I should see about getting debian on mine | 10:24 |
| zear | xdpirate, dingux's scummvm works fine on it, add powder, doom and frotz and you have all you need :) | 10:24 |
| mstevens | or at least the most recent qi image | 10:24 |
| xdpirate | zear, sweet, i'll be playing BASS and monkey island | 10:24 |
| zear | sam&max randomly crashes during the game for some reason, but other games should work fine | 10:25 |
| zear | but i haven't tried neither bass nor monkey island | 10:25 |
| xdpirate | i'm a Beneath a Steel Sky junkie | 10:27 |
| xdpirate | I have it on every single one of my devices | 10:27 |
| tuxbrain | ooooh sam&max!!!! | 10:27 |
| xdpirate | I've got it on my smartphone, PC, DS, Dingoo A320 and my android tablet | 10:28 |
| tuxbrain | gadget junkie! | 10:28 |
| xdpirate | x] | 10:28 |
| xdpirate | i returned my android tablet today tho | 10:28 |
| xdpirate | wifi was busted | 10:28 |
| zear | i completed the whole sam&max on the dingoo, so no idea why it crashes on the nanonote | 10:29 |
| zear | maybe out of ram problems? | 10:29 |
| zear | (nanonote has a little less free ram) | 10:29 |
| mstevens | Have you seen these stories about the chinese "iped" | 10:29 |
| tuxbrain | nop any link? | 10:29 |
| mstevens | http://www.evertiq.com/news/17057 | 10:30 |
| mstevens | it's a sort of ipad knockoff | 10:30 |
| mstevens | runs android | 10:30 |
| xdpirate | tuxbrain, I just ordered now | 12:08 |
| xdpirate | get your ass in gear and send it already | 12:08 |
| xdpirate | :D | 12:08 |
| tuxbrain | xdpirate: I will ship it tomorrow, so at last you will should get it at the end of this week :) | 12:47 |
| xdpirate | tuxbrain, thanks mate :) glad to see a reseller who's actively involved with the community | 12:48 |
| xdpirate | Mantener el buen trabajo! | 12:48 |
| tuxbrain | hehehe let me guess, google has help you on that translation :P | 12:52 |
| xdpirate | yup ;) | 12:52 |
| xdpirate | next time you hear me saying something in spanish, it'd be from the spanish dictionary on my nanonote | 12:53 |
| xdpirate | :P | 12:53 |
| tuxbrain | xdpirate: here, the engineer, the marketing, the costumers, the vamping resellers, users, soft developers , manufacturers and even the few trolls are part of the comunity :) | 12:54 |
| xdpirate | wow, qi hardware has trolls? | 12:55 |
| xdpirate | awesome | 12:55 |
| xdpirate | i just got an idea for a game | 12:55 |
| xdpirate | :3 | 12:55 |
| tuxbrain | trolls are every where. | 13:00 |
| Action: tuxbrain sometimes like to trolling just for fun ... spanish culture carateristic I guess :P | 13:01 | |
| kyak | xdpirate: i guess you lucky bastard will be getting your NN faster than me -\ My parcel is in GUANGZHOU right now, I hope it will be coming to Russia within a week or maybe two | 13:22 |
| xdpirate | kyak, aw, too bad, you should've ordered from tuxbrain :P | 13:25 |
| kyak | i'm not sure it would've been faster :) also, i ordered an SDW-823 Wi-Fi card from sharism to ship it together with NN | 13:28 |
| kyak | tuxbrain: out of interest. could you please check the shipment cost to Russia? | 13:30 |
| tuxbrain | kyak, not shipping to russia :( sorry, the courirer agency I usually use there only ships if destination is a company, and customs there allways with problems, so finally we agree with sharims they will ship directly there until some local distributor wants to sell nanonotes there :) | 13:39 |
| kyak | i see.. yeah, customs and problems have become synonyms lately | 13:42 |
| tuxbrain | vegyraupe: hi! | 14:20 |
| tuxbrain | the FSFE interview has finally being released :) http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=109 | 14:21 |
| vegyraupe | tuxbrain: yay! great! | 14:22 |
| vegyraupe | tuxbrain: congrats | 14:22 |
| tuxbrain | a warm geek proud , is invades myself each time I see the my pic in the FSFE blog :P | 14:23 |
| tuxbrain | and the proud also becomes enourmous ego when thanks to the intervies some guys at CERN contacts me to talk about open hardware licencese... yay! the f&"ng CERN! | 14:25 |
| tuxbrain | vegyraupe: you have gained a special strong spinebreaker bear hug when I see you again | 14:27 |
| vegyraupe | tuxbrain: hehe :) | 14:27 |
| vegyraupe | tuxbrain: I'll make sure to remind you ;) | 14:27 |
| jlmoko_ | tuxbrain, I notified you on this same chanell this morning noon f | 14:28 |
| jlmoko_ | ~/morning// | 14:28 |
| jlmoko_ | from work <jluis> tuxbrain: have you seen http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/david-reyes-samblas-martinez/ | 14:29 |
| tuxbrain | yeah jlmoko_, I see it sorry for not to reply :) | 14:40 |
| jlmoko_ | I suspectected you where on the arduino hackaton | 14:41 |
| tuxbrain | and I'm still on it :) all week translating | 14:42 |
| jlmoko | I've twitted on ot from indenti.ca ;P | 14:47 |
| jlmoko | s/ot/it/ | 14:48 |
| _ant_ | Just curious: is it possible to upgrade RAM to 64MB just by replacing the chip and tweaking the kernel? (or there are missing address lines on PCB?) | 17:42 |
| larsc | hm, whats the nanonote device class in one word? | 18:33 |
| zear | larsc, you mean something like a netbook? | 18:37 |
| _ant_ | larsc: PDA? ) | 18:37 |
| zear | it's a handheld pc | 18:38 |
| _ant_ | zear: it is 2 words) | 18:38 |
| zear | damn, "nanobook" name is already taken ;) | 18:39 |
| zear | maybe call it a "micro pc"? I dunno :P | 18:39 |
| _ant_ | uPC | 18:39 |
| zear | i | 18:39 |
| zear | *i'm pretty sure we have a unique class here | 18:39 |
| zear | so far only the nanonote and zipit share a similar size/design | 18:40 |
| larsc | hm | 18:42 |
| zear | larsc, i don't know what do you need the definition for, but if it's a wiki you can write "Ben NanoNote is a small clamshell device we like to call a "micro pc" " or something among these lines | 18:43 |
| zear | larsc, there's the "Ultra-Mobile PC" class, but it was a term coined by Microsoft and it's for devices running Windows | 18:45 |
| _ant_ | zear: hmm, I didn't heard about Zipit before. It is interesting thing for this price, but Nanonote with built-in wifi should totally beat it. | 18:48 |
| zear | _ant_, yeah, zipit is like half the price of the nanonote, and it has a wifi, but it has no official linux port (just community driven) and it available only in USA | 18:50 |
| zear | *it/is | 18:50 |
| larsc | hm... ok. patches for sending upstream almost done | 18:54 |
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