| Necrosporus | Does specs mean, there is no possibility to connect NanoNote to the internet, except via mini-USB port and usual computer? | 02:07 |
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| Necrosporus | I think, it would be much more useful with addition of at least bluetooth module | 02:08 |
| jlmoko | Necrosporus, there is a wifi uSD http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote_Wi-Fi | 04:19 |
| Necrosporus | jlmoko, I have no wifi network nearby, but I own a bluetooth enabled smartphone | 04:23 |
| Necrosporus | With damned Symbian... But it doesn't matter if I would use it as modem | 04:23 |
| Necrosporus | µSD... | 04:44 |
| Necrosporus | But if there is only one slot, you will be unable to use the internet and memory card same time | 04:45 |
| Necrosporus | So you will be unable to download something big | 04:45 |
| Necrosporus | NanoNote is not a bad thing for its price | 04:48 |
| Necrosporus | But why not to make a feature-full copyleft computer with huge amount of memory and so on... | 04:48 |
| Necrosporus | Something like ARM/MIPS/SPARC/other non-x86 1-2 GHz processor, 1-2 GiB RAM, 3-5 USB ports, screen >= 1024x768, bluetooth, wi-fi with free firmware awailable (like Ath5k) | 04:52 |
| Necrosporus | And at 10 hours battery life | 04:52 |
| Necrosporus | * at least | 04:52 |
| Necrosporus | Is it screen touchscreen? | 05:01 |
| Necrosporus | If not, how to navigate it without mouse? | 05:02 |
| Necrosporus | Or is it intended to be used as pocket linux shell device? | 05:02 |
| orly_owl_ | shell might be the intention | 05:08 |
| orly_owl_ | its probably low spec so people will actually buy it | 05:08 |
| MisterMo | hello.. | 18:02 |
| MisterMo | just got my ben nanonote | 18:02 |
| MisterMo | hm.. perhaps.. one could tell me which keyboard shortcut I have to use to scroll up in the terminal? | 18:02 |
| larsc | hm... | 18:03 |
| larsc | shift+page up. but not sure if it's possible to do that combination with the nanonote keyboard | 18:03 |
| MisterMo | well yeah... how to get the page-up keycode? ;) | 18:04 |
| larsc | red arrow + volup | 18:05 |
| MisterMo | ah.. thx :D | 18:05 |
| MisterMo | and just one more question... what is the "qi" button supposed to do? | 18:06 |
| larsc | it is mapped to ctrl | 18:07 |
| MisterMo | ah..ok | 18:07 |
| MisterMo | thank you, again :) | 18:07 |
| larsc | left ctrl | 18:07 |
| larsc | and ctrl is right ctrl | 18:07 |
| larsc | ah no | 18:07 |
| larsc | it's mapped to F13... | 18:08 |
| larsc | and FN is left ctrl | 18:08 |
| zear | F13? But that's just useless :D | 18:08 |
| MisterMo | hmm... | 18:09 |
| MisterMo | larsc: where are those mappings written down? ;) | 18:10 |
| larsc | MisterMo: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-xburst/source/tree/xburst/target/linux/xburst/files-2.6.32/arch/mips/jz4740/board-qi_lb60.c | 18:11 |
| MisterMo | ah thx :) | 18:12 |
| MisterMo | ok... my really last question this evening..... is there already a mapping to move the mouse cursor? | 18:21 |
| zear | MisterMo, in what environment? | 18:24 |
| zear | there are problems with it in gtk+, sdl - depends on the game code, qt - no idea | 18:25 |
| zear | x11 - still no port of it | 18:26 |
| MisterMo | ah hm.. ok | 18:26 |
| MisterMo | in gtk (stardict e.g.) I don't know how to move it.. qt as well | 18:26 |
| mth | kdrive is pretty simple to build, but I wonder if it's worthwhile on such a small screen | 18:27 |
| mth | actually, it was not that simple now that I think of it | 18:27 |
| mth | since it has quite a few dependencies and it is not always clear which are optional | 18:27 |
| zear | mth, maybe with a wm that does not base on windows | 18:27 |
| zear | and virtual screens rather | 18:28 |
| mth | but I did succeed doing it in the past | 18:28 |
| zear | the problem with x11 on 320x240 are window boarders | 18:28 |
| zear | they eat up too much space | 18:28 |
| zear | so i guess every single x11 program would have to be customized to fit in such a small res | 18:29 |
| mth | I guess you'd want some kind of tabbed interface where only one window at a time is visible and maybe a status bar | 18:29 |
| zear | mth, yeah, something like e17 has | 18:29 |
| zear | though the e17 itself should be too slow on the nanonote | 18:29 |
| mth | in the end we decided to use wxWidgets on DirectFB though, instead of wxWidgets on X11 | 18:30 |
| MisterMo | ratpoison would probably be a fitting wm ;) | 18:30 |
| mth | since the DirectFB disk footprint was a lot lower | 18:30 |
| zear | mth, there are always alternative window systems | 18:31 |
| zear | like the xynth | 18:31 |
| zear | or opie | 18:31 |
| zear | i'm especially interested in xynth, as it has working sdl and gtk support | 18:31 |
| MisterMo | are there already any projects using the nanonote or projects targetting the nanonote which aren't mentioned in the qi-hardware wiki? | 18:32 |
| MisterMo | something one could look at? searching the web results mostly in some "reviews" not saying much.. :-/ | 18:32 |
| zear | projects as in software, or a way to use the nanonote? | 18:32 |
| MisterMo | both, perhaps ;) | 18:33 |
| zear | well, nanonote is binary compatible with dingoo a320, you can run a lot of games for it on the nanonote | 18:33 |
| zear | including emulators and interpreters, like scummvm | 18:33 |
| MisterMo | hm.. ok | 18:33 |
| zear | here's a collection of dingoo games: http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/dingoo.cgi | 18:34 |
| zear | the only thing you'd probably have to do is to copy the missing libs from the dingux toolchain | 18:34 |
| MisterMo | ah ok.. thanks | 18:34 |
| MisterMo | well thanks for the info | 18:44 |
| MisterMo | bye | 18:45 |
| larsc | both kdrive and Xorg are in the qi-hardware package repository | 19:12 |
| mth | isn't kdrive part of Xorg? | 19:13 |
| larsc | hehe. yes. it's part of the Xorg project | 19:17 |
| larsc | but there is also the Xorg xserver | 19:17 |
| mth | overloading is confusing :) | 19:18 |
| larsc | good night | 19:19 |
| mth | nite | 19:19 |
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