| orly_owl | Any word on battery life? | 02:10 |
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| orly_owl | Also .au group buy? | 02:10 |
| tuxbrain | orly_owl: there are some info on batteries on the list http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2010-May/000547.html | 02:18 |
| orly_owl | thanks | 02:19 |
| orly_owl | 15 hours is pretty good | 02:19 |
| tuxbrain | but for sumarize on own unmesured experience 6-7 hours of working time, 15-16h of standby time, 1,5h to full charge from empty to full | 02:20 |
| orly_owl | with the battery that comes with it? | 02:20 |
| tuxbrain | yes | 02:20 |
| tuxbrain | for the group buy, I have not oficialized on the webshop but I will offer the NaNonote for group buy at 95¬ 10x minimum shipping costs apart | 02:21 |
| orly_owl | oh ok | 02:22 |
| orly_owl | sounds good | 02:22 |
| tuxbrain | I think a better place to aks is list, take a look at this wiki page http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Group_Sales if there is no group there start one just editing the page, no registration required (but recomended :P) , and due there is no one now start one. | 02:27 |
| orly_owl | oh good i dont have to register :) | 02:28 |
| vegyraupe | tuxbrain_away: ping | 05:23 |
| wolfspraul | my scripts/config/mconf in openwrt is segfaulting. how do I turn on debug symbols for it? | 05:43 |
| wolfspraul | ok I just added a -g in scripts/config/Makefile... | 05:51 |
| wolfspraul | crash fixed, was a segfault inside strncmp(), had multiple glibc versions installed. after I cleaned up the glibc mess and rebuilt mconf everything works... | 06:40 |
| kristianpaul | we need a backup batery in next YA | 12:20 |
| prpplague | how are the sales for the nanonote? | 13:13 |
| Action: prpplague was considering ordering one today | 13:13 | |
| tuxbrain | where are you from? | 13:13 |
| prpplague | tuxbrain: well i live in the dallas, texas area | 13:15 |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: then it would come directly from Hong Kong with Fedex | 13:15 |
| tuxbrain | yep :) | 13:15 |
| wolfspraul | sales are good, maybe sold 600-700 now | 13:16 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: nice | 13:16 |
| wolfspraul | of course sales are not exploding because software is still growing and not at the point that the normal end user could just unpack it and start having fun | 13:16 |
| Action: prpplague is interested in purchasing the nanonote without the motherboard | 13:16 | |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: did you see David's last video? | 13:16 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: sorry no, i've been swamped with a board bringup for the last 3 weeks | 13:16 |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: we cannot sell this right now, it's too much work. So the only way to get everything but the board is to buy a NN, take the board out :-) | 13:17 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: even for 5000 units? | 13:17 |
| wolfspraul | heh | 13:18 |
| wolfspraul | you want to buy 5000 NanoNotes without board? | 13:18 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: possibly | 13:18 |
| wolfspraul | just the case, LCM, keyboard? | 13:18 |
| prpplague | yea we will do our own motherboard using an OMAP4 chip | 13:19 |
| wolfspraul | oh cool! | 13:19 |
| prpplague | nanonote is one of the items were were considering since the design was open and easy to implement our own mb | 13:19 |
| wolfspraul | we can definitely look into it | 13:20 |
| wolfspraul | could be cheap even, < 20 USD maybe. don't know. | 13:20 |
| prpplague | yea that is what we figured | 13:21 |
| wolfspraul | if you are seriously interested, we will definitely be able to give you a quote | 13:22 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: yea it is a serious project, would be a joint venture between TI and TinCanTools | 13:23 |
| wolfspraul | but in this case I think you really should buy 1 NN first so you know the device well. | 13:23 |
| prpplague | yea i just finished doing the initial board bringup of the core omap4 board items | 13:23 |
| prpplague | so now we are looking at the over packaging | 13:23 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: any discount codes? hehe | 13:28 |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: you mean codes that add our losses per unit to the sales price to arrive at something sustainable? no... | 13:29 |
| wolfspraul | :-) | 13:29 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: hehe | 13:29 |
| Action: prpplague orders one | 13:31 | |
| wolfspraul | I support you on your project, not going to hide the vendors and prices from you. But the NanoNotes are selling at 99 USD now, we cannot change that. | 13:31 |
| prpplague | yea i know , i was joking with you | 13:31 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: alo | 13:32 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: http://www.microensamble.com/ | 13:32 |
| kristianpaul | wolfspraul: SMT stuff in colombia that i know works | 13:33 |
| kristianpaul | but i guess carlos already use it | 13:33 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: ordered | 13:33 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: whats the delivery time usually like to the US? | 13:33 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: are you guys geared up to do 5000 units? | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | 3-5 days total maybe | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | friday morning now | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | not sure it goes out of HK today, maybe not | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | then it would go out Monday | 13:34 |
| prpplague | that with the priority shipping? | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | first our warehouse needs to pick it up and give it to the hands of fedex | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | I'm not sure that will happen today. | 13:34 |
| wolfspraul | you are testing the system at a good time :-) | 13:35 |
| prpplague | np, will they send me an email with a tracking number? | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | in a perfect world it should go out today, but it's friday 10.30 AM here, not sure our fulfillment works that well yet | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: hey, sorry | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | all confused | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | I am in San Francisco | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | it's 10.30 AM where I am :-) | 13:35 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: ahh | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | scratch what I said... | 13:35 |
| kristianpaul | morninh there :) | 13:35 |
| wolfspraul | I have a phone conf... yes you should get a tracking number, and yes we can do 5K cases, of course | 13:36 |
| Action: kristianpaul in lunch time | 13:36 | |
| wolfspraul | 'we' is relative here since it's just a few vendors anyway | 13:36 |
| wolfspraul | not really us | 13:36 |
| prpplague | dandy | 13:36 |
| wolfspraul | keyboard + metal domes + LCM + plastic + hinge | 13:36 |
| prpplague | yea, basically the entire item minus the motherboard, including battery and box | 13:37 |
| wolfspraul | ah OK, well there surely will be some details like manual and printing on box | 13:37 |
| wolfspraul | do you want to sell your thing as 'NanoNote'? | 13:38 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: that will be marketing decision, but i could see it as NanoNote-OMAP4 | 13:38 |
| wolfspraul | we haven't even thought about this in detail yet you are the first one, but I think that would be very confusing and we would like to keep use of the NanoNote name to products that are fully compatible with the other NanoNotes | 13:38 |
| wolfspraul | ah OK | 13:38 |
| Action: kristianpaul wonders a nanonote like gameboy unit | 13:38 | |
| wolfspraul | on the phone for a while, sorry... | 13:39 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: i have a meeting on the subject next week | 13:39 |
| wolfspraul | prpplague: thanks for ordering! Can you send me a short mail about the OMAP project? wolfgang@sharism.cc | 13:39 |
| prpplague | wolfspraul: will do | 13:39 |
| Action: FrankBlues waves | 14:01 | |
| darfgarf | is there anyone around that knows a bit about opkg? | 14:43 |
| tuxbrain | asking directly is better :) | 14:44 |
| CongoZombie | larsc: not sure if I've asked you about this, but know how to assign a custom SrsRq key without a custom driver? (as well as having alternate key mapping when SrsRq is held) | 14:44 |
| darfgarf | oh wait, got it working...almost | 14:46 |
| larsc | CongoZombie: no idea | 14:50 |
| CongoZombie | ok | 14:50 |
| CongoZombie | not to worry | 14:50 |
| CongoZombie | sure there is a way | 14:50 |
| CongoZombie | it was done with a custom gpio-keys driver in the ingenic kernel, but there must be a better way | 14:50 |
| CongoZombie | aha "The Magic SysRQ system works by registering key operations against a key op lookup table, which is defined in 'drivers/char/sysrq.c'" bingo. | 14:53 |
| CongoZombie | why did I write SrsRQ up there instead of SysRq :| | 14:55 |
| qwebirc2541 | I've manges to get kdrive running on the nanonote, but the keyboard is not working. I get this error: | 15:05 |
| qwebirc2541 | > Error: Can't find file "pc/pc" for symbols include | 15:05 |
| qwebirc2541 | > Exiting | 15:05 |
| qwebirc2541 | > Abandoning symbols file "default" | 15:06 |
| qwebirc2541 | could somebody point me to what I am doing wrong | 15:06 |
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