qi-commits | Xiangfu Liu: update READE, add INSTALL file http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/cd7bc7f | 01:47 |
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fred-o | hi guys, new nanonote owner here. i have an embarrasing question: how do i exit gmu? :) | 03:38 |
tuxbrain_away | fred-o: alt+enter | 03:40 |
fred-o | sweet! thanks :) | 03:41 |
tuxbrain | It flash!!!!! it flash!!!! Nanonote has flashed and arduino board!!!!! yippy kay hey!!!! | 03:57 |
Action: tuxbrain is dancing the happy geek dance | 03:57 | |
vegyraupe | tuxbrain: congrats! | 03:57 |
vegyraupe | can we get a video? | 03:57 |
vegyraupe | of the dance I mean ;) | 03:57 |
tuxbrain | hehehe sorry human being is not ready for this yet | 03:58 |
vegyraupe | hrhr | 03:58 |
vegyraupe | I understand ;) | 03:58 |
tuxbrain | but take for sure a new heavy metal video clip will born from this :) | 03:59 |
vegyraupe | :D | 04:03 |
emdete | tuxbrain: how is it connected? | 04:37 |
tuxbrain | trough serial port, using test points tp4 and tp5 | 04:41 |
tuxbrain | ttyS0 | 04:41 |
tuxbrain | you can see detailed pics of the wiring here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Serial_console#Hardware_mod_to_have_a_pluggable_serial_port | 04:42 |
Action: tuxbrain is cleaning the "studio" to make the video demo | 04:45 | |
emdete | :D great - pics & video rule! | 04:51 |
tuxbrain | BNN hardware modified... debian running... arduino flashed... I feel an emptiness in my geeksoul .... once the tutorial/video was done ....what outofbounds goals I should point now? :P | 04:53 |
emdete | tuxbrain: wee need some case modelling...! :D | 04:54 |
tuxbrain | emdete: have you see this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F5g559TMrE | 04:54 |
tuxbrain | emdete: if BNN can control arduino, it can control a RipRap or Makerbot :P | 04:56 |
tuxbrain | mmmm if they not where so f%&ing expensive using a BNN with some dedicated prog as interface to those 3d printers sould be a interesting project to get into | 04:59 |
emdete | tuxbrain: nice music... | 05:03 |
tuxbrain | yeah nanowar are great musicians with a greater sense of humor :), and also GNU/Linux and free knowledge advocates | 05:06 |
zear | tuxbrain, wait, a metal band interested in GNU/Linux? | 05:08 |
emdete | so there is direct wirering between nano & arduino? no additional converter? | 05:08 |
tuxbrain | emdete:yep | 05:09 |
emdete | tuxbrain: amazing.. | 05:09 |
tuxbrain | zear:yep, and also they licence they music under CC :P | 05:10 |
zear | tuxbrain, so technically we could put some of their music as ogg samples or use it as a starting tune for the nanonote? | 05:11 |
tuxbrain | emdete:yes in spite of they work in diferent voltages, BNN 3,3 Arduino 5 , Arduino is interpreting 3,3V as logical 1 and it really does not output 5V is more a 4-4,2V son Ben can handel it :P | 05:12 |
tuxbrain | zear:yep :) I have some mails with gatto (the *leader* of the band) and he is totally happy to be related with NanoNote project :) | 05:14 |
zear | :D | 05:14 |
zear | tuxbrain, that might be very handy when we develop an alarm clock app | 05:15 |
zear | so their guitar solo could be used as an alarm tune :) | 05:15 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: update changelog http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/b65e321 | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: avoid accidentally tracking the xbboot stage1 firmware http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/63d8f08 | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: debian/rules: fix clean target http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/dbe9c8b | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: update .gitignore http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/e6a1f0f | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: include entire source tree in source package http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/78f38d4 | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Jonathan Nieder: unset executable bit on firmware image http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/e140411 | 05:16 |
qi-commits | Xiangfu Liu: update INSTALL, add how to get cross-toolchain http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/4ffa696 | 05:16 |
tuxbrain | he :D yeah they have some noisy themes to weak up anyone | 05:16 |
zear | btw http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/ might be worth porting this app | 05:17 |
tuxbrain | [...]and generally any detailed graphics painted with a mouse[...] mouse? in BNN? | 05:18 |
zear | tuxbrain, they made a port of it to the gp2x | 05:19 |
zear | so i believe we could use some code from it for mouse emulation | 05:19 |
tuxbrain | ops! gp2x doen't have touchscreen? | 05:19 |
zear | tuxbrain, only the F200 model | 05:19 |
tuxbrain | ok :) | 05:20 |
tuxbrain | is should be nice to have a image editor on BNN :) but I'm still waiting for just a viewer :P | 05:21 |
zear | tuxbrain, oh, it has mouse emulation support already compiled in | 05:22 |
zear | just hold ctrl and move it with arrows | 05:22 |
tuxbrain | this will easy a lot the work :P | 05:23 |
zear | yep | 05:23 |
tuxbrain | zear: do you know zLouD? he has a very simple command line fb viewer Dinimavie http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/52364-dinimavie-ver-20100303/ | 05:26 |
zear | tuxbrain, yeah, i think he hangs out at #dingoonity sometimes | 05:27 |
tuxbrain | I have tryied to reach him without success | 05:27 |
zear | i myself ported another image viewer for dingux, but it couldn't load anything greater than 320x240 | 05:27 |
zear | so not good for hi res pics | 05:27 |
tuxbrain | It will be awesome if he release the the code under GPL , it also work with big image and rescale is very fast | 05:28 |
tuxbrain | and is simple to use | 05:28 |
tuxbrain | binary works out of the box on bnn but without the code can't be integrated in the main distro | 05:29 |
zear | i understand, will ask him for the source then | 05:30 |
tuxbrain | thanks a lot man | 05:31 |
tuxbrain | sure you have more chances to be listened than me :) | 05:31 |
zear | ;) | 05:31 |
tuxbrain | must leave for a moment now | 05:32 |
emdete | :D tuxbrain leaves and silence comes into this channel... | 08:18 |
josch | is this good or bad news? :P | 08:29 |
tuxbrain_away | :P | 08:29 |
Action: tuxbrain_away is always watching | 08:30 | |
zear | tuxbrain_away, i asked zLouD about dinimavie, and currently the code isn't available | 08:33 |
zear | but he's working on a new version which will be gpl'ed | 08:33 |
tuxbrain | wtf has done with the code to make it unaviable? | 08:34 |
tuxbrain | :) | 08:34 |
zear | it never was available, was it? | 08:34 |
tuxbrain | nop, but if he is the author? | 08:34 |
zear | i guess it's too shitty to be published or something ;) | 08:34 |
zear | but he said he's working on a new - gpl'ed version, so it's only for the better | 08:35 |
tuxbrain | do him does directly in 0 1 01 | 08:35 |
tuxbrain | just joking it's good news all in all | 08:35 |
zear | oh he has the code, i mean the code is not open | 08:35 |
zear | so not available form the public | 08:35 |
tuxbrain | thanks a lot zear, ping me if you have more news about this | 08:36 |
zear | ok | 08:36 |
tuxbrain | going to eat, emdete you can continue missing me :P | 08:37 |
kristoffer | anyone actually tried the debian port? Everything went well, but nanonote is unresponsive afterwards :) | 08:45 |
vegyraupe | kristoffer: yes and it worked for me otherwise I wouldn't have posted the info | 08:54 |
vegyraupe | david also reproduced it | 08:54 |
vegyraupe | and sent a mail about it yesterday | 08:54 |
kristoffer | very weird then | 08:55 |
vegyraupe | check david's email, he found the combination it works in | 08:55 |
kristoffer | what combination? I just downloaded all the files from his site | 08:55 |
vegyraupe | I'd also suggest erasing the NAND before flashing the kernel and uboot | 08:56 |
kristoffer | that I didnt do, so might been the cause | 08:57 |
vegyraupe | http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/developer/2010-May/002932.html | 08:57 |
vegyraupe | my wild guess is, that the problem is not debian itself | 08:58 |
kristoffer | no I dont think so either, since I atleast would have gotten something on screen (or U+PWR would work) | 08:58 |
kristoffer | so its bootloader and/or kernel | 08:58 |
vegyraupe | it is the different size of the kernel | 08:58 |
vegyraupe | yepp | 08:58 |
kristoffer | it blew the barrier size? | 08:58 |
vegyraupe | I do remember that we had problems if the kernel being flashed was smaller than the one being replaced | 08:59 |
zear | kristoffer, for some reason when i try to flash my nanonote with the flash script, it never correctly flashes the bootloader | 09:00 |
zear | and have to manually flash it again | 09:00 |
zear | that's probably what happened to you | 09:00 |
kristoffer | It also had some issues when the kernel was too large, atleast early on. I remember hitting that a couple of times. | 09:00 |
kristoffer | doh, now gotta spend 1-2 hours getting into usbboot mode :P | 09:02 |
zear | kristoffer, i know how it feels ;) | 09:02 |
zear | though, i noticed that after i hold the pins shorted for a longer time (2-3sec) it usually boots into usb mode | 09:02 |
kristoffer | oki got bootloader going (no more short circuiting), so going to try replace kernel (it blacks out after loading kernel). | 09:21 |
emdete | kristoffer: i soldered it to keep it in usbboot while testing my scripts ;) | 09:25 |
kristoffer | emdete, its an good idea. What I really miss is the serial output, so used to use it for kernel debugging. | 09:26 |
emdete | kristoffer: yes, i have no serial here. that's why i switched u-boot to tell the kernel to log to the lcd | 09:27 |
emdete | kristoffer: but i don't do really kernel debugging anyway... | 09:27 |
kristoffer | emdete, yeah same here. I think the bootmessages should automaticly come up on lcd. But I can understand that windows users hate that | 09:28 |
emdete | i think we are not in a state that we do enduser cosmetics, even a win user has to read whats coming up there to get help. | 09:28 |
emdete | but i understand you point. if everything works fine, i prefere a splash too | 09:29 |
kristoffer | I agree with you, I would really prefer the standard kernel/u-boot spitting out info while booting. And thats what Ive said on the mailinglist | 09:32 |
kristoffer | hmm, reflashed the kernel and still black | 09:42 |
emdete | kristoffer: the u-boot starts with output on lcd - do u see that? | 09:44 |
kristoffer | yeppers, so should be kernel | 09:54 |
kristoffer | unless kernel is feeding output into oblivion and userland takes forever to load | 09:54 |
emdete | nonono, i mean if you dont see anything we shouldnt talk about kernel, we should look why the u-boot does not load/start | 09:57 |
emdete | :) | 09:57 |
kristoffer | yeah agreed :) Maybe I should try and erase | 09:57 |
kristoffer | I see the bootloader so thats fine | 09:58 |
emdete | i made me a script doing /all/ steps and always start with a full erase when i played with a problematic device | 09:58 |
emdete | :D | 09:58 |
kristoffer | hehe | 09:58 |
emdete | see http://pyneo.org/downloads/nano/nano-1GB/reflash.sh (which does not fit for you!!) - but as an example... | 09:59 |
kristoffer | roger thx | 10:00 |
emdete | don't use it without adjusting the settings... all numbers are wrong for a ben... | 10:00 |
kristoffer | yeah, was thinking that I should erase from kernel start and a couple of megs "up" | 10:01 |
kristoffer | just to make sure that its clear for when I reflash the kernel | 10:02 |
emdete | i never liked that aproach... i always flash /all/ parts all the time i flash | 10:02 |
emdete | too much possibility for errors to come in otherwise | 10:03 |
kristoffer | hmm agreed, I guess. | 10:05 |
kristoffer | just a pity when bootloader is working, to risk messing it up | 10:09 |
emdete | nonono, when you use a script and that manages to flash it once it will do every time. trust me | 10:14 |
kristoffer | doh, now bootloader went away again | 10:35 |
kristoffer | and getting some flash errors :( | 10:35 |
tuxbrain_away | kristoffer:carbonized rubber time! :P | 10:40 |
emdete | kristoffer: can you cut&paste the flash errors you got? | 10:41 |
emdete | (not here... :D ) | 10:41 |
tuxbrain | I also recomend emdete aproach, erase all, uboot, kernel, rootfs | 10:41 |
tuxbrain | you will save a lot of time of trys | 10:41 |
emdete | plus: do it in a script and fix the script as long as it fails... | 10:42 |
emdete | kristoffer: i really would like to see the error message | 10:42 |
emdete | (i want to enhance my page about taht and did not get any errors anymore lately) | 10:43 |
kristoffer | one sec then | 10:45 |
kristoffer | emdete, this is when I do usbboot -c "boot". | 10:48 |
kristoffer | http://pastebin.com/5j2NY02k | 10:48 |
kristoffer | doh, I mean when flashing bootloader | 10:48 |
kristoffer | I dont know if that "no check!" is an error or warning | 10:49 |
kristoffer | Earlier I got alot of bad sector shit, let me see what kernel flashing says | 10:49 |
emdete | mom, one step by another | 10:50 |
emdete | you did a boot, a nerase, a nprog, right? | 10:50 |
kristoffer | yes | 10:50 |
kristoffer | http://pastebin.com/BebFYnuV this is kernel flashing, only see that it skips an bad sector at end. | 10:50 |
emdete | have you read my page about nano flashing? :D | 10:51 |
kristoffer | not sure, got a link? | 10:51 |
emdete | if a message from usbboot has no newline (as yours) the flashing did /not/ succeed :) | 10:52 |
emdete | http://pyneo.org/howto/debian/nano.html | 10:52 |
kristoffer | yes that I know, but what can one do? If the flashing continues to fail..? | 10:52 |
emdete | could you retry flashing the u-boot? | 10:54 |
emdete | what happens? | 10:54 |
kristoffer | same output | 10:54 |
kristoffer | erased it and it marks the bad sectors but get same result when flashing | 10:55 |
tuxbrain_away | kirtoffer: I call it "usb port fatige", try change usb port on host computer or restarting host | 10:56 |
tuxbrain_away | also be sure the cable is good | 10:56 |
tuxbrain_away | the one that comes witn BNN quite good | 10:57 |
tuxbrain_away | but sometimes the UPF happens sometimes | 10:58 |
tuxbrain_away | whatever cable you use | 10:58 |
kristoffer | rebooted, changed cable and changed usb port. Getting same issue. | 11:18 |
kristoffer | There been any recent changes to usbboot so I should upgrade it? | 11:19 |
emdete | kristoffer: which version are u using? | 11:20 |
emdete | 0.0+200906-1 is mine | 11:20 |
kristoffer | usbboot version: 20090630-1 | 11:20 |
emdete | yes, same | 11:20 |
emdete | do u use a script? | 11:20 |
kristoffer | and it worked the first time I reflashed device (bootloader but not kernel) | 11:20 |
kristoffer | no, but unless its some sort of timing thing I cant see how it matters. | 11:21 |
emdete | to exclude errors introduced by humans sitting at the kbd... even me succeded with that aproach ;) | 11:22 |
kristoffer | I can agree on that, but Im only aiming for the bootloader currently, which is only boot, delete, flash | 11:24 |
emdete | do as you like. | 11:27 |
kristoffer | I just want some options, currently it seems like bad sectors in wrong places are messing things up. | 11:30 |
tuxbrain_away | kristoffer:just one thing, have you enabled nand erasing in the usbboot.cfg | 12:33 |
tuxbrain_away | sed -i 's/NAND_FORCEERASE = .*/NAND_FORCEERASE = 1/' /etc/xburst-tools/usbboot.cfg | 12:33 |
kristoffer | tuxbrain_away, yes | 12:57 |
kristoffer | tuxbrain_away, I ran benflash script and got bootloader working, but kernel got bad CRC | 12:58 |
kristoffer | Consider an bad block inside the kernel area, how can I move beyond that? Map the kernel area somewhere else? | 13:48 |
emdete | kristoffer: that is done automaticlly if you proper nerase | 13:56 |
emdete | please read my page... ... ... ... | 13:56 |
kristoffer | Ive done that, but cant see that it offers anything extra that Im not already doing | 13:57 |
qi-commits | Juan64Bits: Fixing expansion board for sakc. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/978a555 | 14:55 |
Kristoffer | I believe my nanonote is giving up. | 15:22 |
emdete | kristianpaul: hm, we have to improve all this, it's anoying. it worked for me using the script | 15:23 |
Kristoffer | getting more and more bad blocks :( | 15:23 |
emdete | kristianpaul: nonono! | 15:23 |
emdete | kristianpaul: thats all wrong usage of usbbot... trust me, i had that too | 15:23 |
Kristoffer | emdete: you talking to me? | 15:24 |
emdete | we still just don't have a reliable way to flash. let me prepare a script and you try /exactly/ with that script. would you do that for me? | 15:24 |
Kristoffer | yeah sure | 15:24 |
emdete | Kristoffer: sure oups.. :D | 15:24 |
emdete | Kristoffer: was some tab-auto-expand here... | 15:24 |
Kristoffer | been at this for hours now so Im open for anything | 15:25 |
Kristoffer | I guess as much :) | 15:25 |
emdete | harhar, were does kristianpaul come from?!? | 15:25 |
emdete | Kristoffer: i have been there too, ask vegyraupe... ;) he suffert from that alot | 15:25 |
emdete | Kristoffer: give me a bit, i will put a script somewhere... | 15:26 |
kristoffer_ | back, had to reboot | 15:29 |
kristianpaul | emdete: hello | 15:31 |
emdete | krist* have problems :D :D | 15:32 |
kristoffer_ | :P | 15:35 |
kristoffer_ | Oki, got it inside usbboot mode now | 15:36 |
kristianpaul | emdete: np | 15:36 |
emdete | http://pyneo.org/downloads/nano/reflash.sh is there. i can't test it now, cause i send my nn to josch | 15:36 |
emdete | kristianpaul: sry waking you up.. ;) | 15:37 |
emdete | kristoffer_: it curls the version that work for me. you need curl.. | 15:37 |
kristoffer_ | running | 15:39 |
kristianpaul | emdete: ohh you are from pyneo? | 15:39 |
emdete | kristianpaul: yes, is that good or bad? | 15:39 |
kristianpaul | emdete: let me think ;) | 15:39 |
kristianpaul | i dint knew it about that script | 15:40 |
kristianpaul | i had some pain trying to install debian on my nano, until tuxbrain_away giveme some answer | 15:40 |
kristoffer_ | its transfering | 15:40 |
kristianpaul | about why it dint booted | 15:40 |
kristianpaul | emdete: so how usefull is debian on a nn right now? | 15:41 |
emdete | kristianpaul: i just put it there, i managed to get debian on the 1GB model today it the script was he outcome ;) | 15:41 |
kristoffer_ | hmm, when I erased I did it with tailing -n | 15:42 |
kristoffer_ | but you dont do that inside the script, whats the difference? | 15:42 |
emdete | hm, i use -n for nprog only... hm | 15:43 |
kristoffer_ | just asking since thats the difference I can see atm. | 15:44 |
kristoffer_ | 60% transfered of userland so far | 15:44 |
tuxbrain | kristianpaul: the true kristianpaul have you achive to install debian? | 15:45 |
kristoffer_ | emdete, btw like your script, alot more informative this way. | 15:46 |
emdete | kristoffer_: that's the cause i do scripts ;) it's informative for me too, say in some weeks when i have to redo all that stuff. i prefere clean script in favor to prosa wiki pages | 15:48 |
kristoffer_ | point taken, especially if this decides to suddenly work. | 15:49 |
emdete | -n is probably ignored for nerase: image type must be: -n:no oob -o:with oob no ecc -e:with oob and ecc | 15:49 |
kristianpaul | tuxbrain: nope tried yet | 15:49 |
kristianpaul | again* | 15:49 |
emdete | kristoffer_: nono, point is: if it does no work we learn how to even improve it for the next guy asking. /this/ is the way open source works! | 15:50 |
kristoffer_ | :D | 15:50 |
Action: tuxbrain gonna be f%&/ing picky, | 15:51 | |
Action: tuxbrain has think it twice | 15:52 | |
Kristoffer | when I flashed last time (manually) I had approx 200 bad blocks out of 4096 | 15:53 |
tuxbrain | Kristoffer: how about jlime on BNN? any progress (I know you where too bussy with studys) | 15:53 |
Kristoffer | tuxbrain, jlime has bought an dev machine (nanonote) for another developer so we should be back in buissness shortly, Im tweaking the kernel and he will work on the GUI. | 15:54 |
Kristoffer | so we got 3 nanonotes in developer hands so far | 15:54 |
tuxbrain | :) great , also have a meeting soon , isn't it? | 15:55 |
Kristoffer | yeah, the idea is to meet up in poland in august/september, will be fun. | 15:55 |
Kristoffer | emdete, oki, its done flashing now. So will see ...... *drumroll* | 15:56 |
Action: tuxbrain is holding his breath | 15:57 | |
Kristoffer | well, seems like bootloader is working but getting black screen after it loads kernel. | 15:57 |
tuxbrain | wait | 15:58 |
Kristoffer | sure, but for how long? | 15:58 |
Kristoffer | afk, Ill let it work for awhile | 15:58 |
tuxbrain | mmmm too much | 15:59 |
tuxbrain | what rootfs are you using? | 15:59 |
emdete | Kristoffer: any errors? | 15:59 |
tuxbrain | with official uboot you don't have log | 16:00 |
tuxbrain | kristoffer if you are not pissed off yet, try my combination | 16:01 |
Kristoffer | its still black | 16:04 |
Action: kristianpaul dejaboo | 16:04 | |
Kristoffer | yeah, I should try different bootloader to get output | 16:04 |
Kristoffer | reflashing with other bootloader | 16:07 |
Kristoffer | using different bootloader, no change. Still black screen after bootloader | 16:36 |
Kristoffer | going to give it a rest for tonight. | 16:37 |
Action: kristianpaul dejaboo | 16:37 | |
Kristoffer | thx for help so far, nite | 16:37 |
qwebirc21601 | is there a way to reflash openwrt-xburst-u-boot.bin when my u-boot is messed up? | 17:08 |
darfgarf | qwebirc21601, should be, you'll need a copy of a working u-boot, usb-tool and you need to know what offset to flash it to | 17:09 |
qwebirc21601 | usb-tool, not usbboot ? | 17:11 |
darfgarf | oh yeah, brain farted | 17:12 |
qwebirc21601 | when I connect the serial to the ben, then the bootprocess ends with: | 17:13 |
qwebirc21601 | [U] pressedn | 17:13 |
qwebirc21601 | enter USB BOOT mode | 17:13 |
qwebirc21601 | Starting U-Boot ...n | 17:13 |
qwebirc21601 | but it does not activate the usb interface | 17:13 |
qwebirc21601 | at least I do not get any message from my systems kernel. | 17:13 |
darfgarf | no idea really, but i've only ever got it to conenct properly by shortin ghte pins under the battery, not with power+u | 17:14 |
qwebirc21601 | hm. that does not sound good. | 17:16 |
darfgarf | could just be me, i tend to break things a lot. but once i get mine into flashing mode, the reflash_ben script has worked flawlessly every time | 17:17 |
zear | darfgarf, same, power+u returns an error in usb-tool | 17:17 |
qwebirc21601 | <darfgarf> yeah, but that's if u-boot is working. I broke u-boot ... | 17:18 |
darfgarf | qwebirc21601, so wouldn't puttin git into usb mode by shortin gthe pins be better? as that's a hardware thing built into the chip | 17:19 |
zear | qwebirc21601, short the pins and you can flash u-boot again | 17:19 |
qwebirc21601 | ok, trying ... | 17:19 |
qwebirc21601 | bingo! | 17:20 |
qwebirc21601 | thanks a lot, u 2 :-) | 17:21 |
darfgarf | welcome | 17:21 |
Frankblues | Hello! | 18:02 |
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