| wolfspraul | larsc: can you tell me which registers on the giantplus side are undocumented? | 01:05 |
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| wolfspraul | I can test their willingness to share more documentation with us :-) | 01:05 |
| vegyraupe | morning | 04:17 |
| gnufs | http://aligunduz.org/img/nanonote/timetravelunix.jpg | 04:18 |
| wolfspraul | vegyraupe: believe it or not, the digital picture frame is on the way to you! | 04:23 |
| wolfspraul | DHL just picked it up... | 04:23 |
| wolfspraul | gnufs: nice picture :-) | 04:24 |
| wolfspraul | can you upload it to the wiki, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Special:Upload | 04:24 |
| larsc | wolfspraul: the display is super stable now. even without setting the undocumented registers | 04:24 |
| vegyraupe | wolfspraul: wow! great! yippie! | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | larsc: oh, why that? | 04:25 |
| wolfspraul | larsc: about more recent kernel versions, I read somewhere 2.6.33 introduced something called 'compressed memory'. could this be helpful on the ben? | 04:26 |
| larsc | wolfspraul: i used their init sequence, just without the undocumented registers | 04:27 |
| wolfspraul | hmm, OK | 04:27 |
| larsc | wolfspraul: yes, it can be used and i've already been looking into it. | 04:27 |
| wolfspraul | if you can tell me the numbers of undocumented registers I can still ask | 04:27 |
| gnufs | wolfspraul: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Timetravelunix.jpg | 04:28 |
| zear | hey wolfspraul, what's with that CECT C3100 phone? | 04:28 |
| zear | are you planning to port linux to it? | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | ah yes | 04:28 |
| larsc | wolfspraul: register numbers 0xac, 0x96, 0x97 | 04:28 |
| wolfspraul | zear: another thing on my list first - you mentioned a jlime meeting in poland. Can you add it to http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Qi:Current_events | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | so the C3100 | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | puh, bit of a long story | 04:29 |
| zear | wolfspraul, i'll do it as fast as i get sure it's official and everyone is welcome | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | Qi is copyleft hardware, not just Ben NanoNote | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | we are interested in adding GPS, see the talk about a Garmin-like device for OSM | 04:29 |
| wolfspraul | and of course also interested in phones | 04:30 |
| zear | yeah, i realize | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | so we are following osmocombb | 04:30 |
| zear | that's why I ask - is it planned to be a linux phone? | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | for now osmocom uses ti calypso and maybe locosto chipsets to hack into | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | but harald has an eye on mtk as well | 04:30 |
| wolfspraul | so when he asked on the list I offered a bit of MTK research support, since I just happened to be in shenzhen | 04:30 |
| zear | if you guys ever manage to port linux to a similar phone and still keep it at the low price, i'll definitely buy one | 04:31 |
| zear | or even two | 04:31 |
| zear | i always wanted to have a linux phone that looks like a phone and works like a phone, unlike freerunner ;) | 04:31 |
| wolfspraul | http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-April/000364.html | 04:32 |
| wolfspraul | zear: you would have to buy more like 50K and become a big disti for Poland :-) | 04:33 |
| wolfspraul | but yes, I share your sentiments and of course we work on this stuff | 04:33 |
| zear | haha, not gonna happen ;D | 04:33 |
| wolfspraul | who knows | 04:33 |
| wolfspraul | if I can sell you these phones for 15 USD a piece, and we can get really functional software on it, you might find people in Poland that are very interested in financing it all. like large retail chains etc. | 04:33 |
| wolfspraul | but lots of pieces are missing still | 04:34 |
| zear | if it had features like encrypted calls and texts | 04:34 |
| zear | then it would probably sell good | 04:34 |
| wolfspraul | so one by one | 04:34 |
| wolfspraul | osmocom is being developed | 04:34 |
| wolfspraul | it's a long long way | 04:34 |
| wolfspraul | I'm actually somewhat doubtful about the GSM stacks since they are huge and moving forward | 04:34 |
| wolfspraul | but the project is great still, and if I can support it a bit from the MTK side I'm happy to do that | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | this is 'alpha' stage though | 04:35 |
| zear | so it's gonna take years, eh? | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | yes | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | realistically | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | actually the Ben is a step there | 04:35 |
| zear | still, it's something really interesting | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | you just need to see all the pieces | 04:35 |
| wolfspraul | but unfortunately there are lots of pieces | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | that's why the SAKC, even Milkymist One, Elphel cameras, etc. all fit into this | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | we'll see | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | so for this wiki page, yes I bought some of those phones, and tried to see how cheap & fast I can dig into the PCB | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | was quite successful | 04:36 |
| wolfspraul | I basically found a shop on the street that can do what you see on that wiki page for 100 USD in 2 days or so | 04:36 |
| zear | is it a form of reverse engineering? | 04:37 |
| wolfspraul | I'm not going to distinguish between forward engineering and reverse engineering. | 04:37 |
| wolfspraul | I only do forward engineering :-) | 04:37 |
| wolfspraul | I buy phones, then I take apart my property. | 04:37 |
| wolfspraul | those pictures are lined up in physical order, i.e. you can zoom through the product | 04:38 |
| zear | i can only imagine how many iphones that company gets for taking apart :D | 04:38 |
| wolfspraul | not many | 04:38 |
| wolfspraul | no point | 04:38 |
| wolfspraul | there is not that much design work in the PCB anyway | 04:39 |
| zear | to produce cheap ripoff, i guess ;) | 04:39 |
| wolfspraul | no no | 04:39 |
| wolfspraul | it's all different than you think :-) | 04:39 |
| zear | ah | 04:39 |
| wolfspraul | so anyway, did this explain the C3100 page in the wiki? | 04:40 |
| zear | well, yeah, the PCB is completely different in the ripoffs, they just use the same form factor and look like the originals | 04:40 |
| zear | i guess so :) | 04:40 |
| wolfspraul | it's a support effort for a neighboring project, osmocombb | 04:40 |
| wolfspraul | we'd love to do just what you are asking for | 04:40 |
| wolfspraul | a phone that looks like a phone, and runs 100% free Linux | 04:40 |
| wolfspraul | believe it or not, by buying a nanonote, and hacking on it, and helping us with kernel, apps, Debian, etc. you are contributing towards that direction | 04:41 |
| wolfspraul | at least I hope so, and we don't die before reaching the goal :-) | 04:41 |
| zear | :D | 04:42 |
| zear | just don't follow the way of openpandora and you'll be fine ;) | 04:42 |
| larsc | what did they do wrong? | 04:42 |
| zear | taking preorders for unexistant hardware | 04:43 |
| zear | it's about 3 years since they started the preorders | 04:43 |
| zear | and they still don't have a finished product | 04:43 |
| wejp | yeah, that really sucks | 04:43 |
| zear | and in the meanwhile many people resigned | 04:43 |
| wejp | also they are not building open source hardware, so you can't really compare that anyway | 04:43 |
| zear | and they had to return their preorder money back | 04:43 |
| vegyraupe | zear, wejp: the problem is not the way they finance the project, but the fact that they had no idea what they were getting it to | 04:44 |
| vegyraupe | it = in | 04:44 |
| wejp | vegyraupe, yes you are right, that is the biggest problem there | 04:44 |
| zear | i agree | 04:44 |
| vegyraupe | if you don't wanna be dependent on some ppl with big money you have to find alternative ways | 04:45 |
| vegyraupe | and I like the approach of community supported development better and better | 04:45 |
| zear | btw, when can we expect any public information about how are the bens selling? | 04:45 |
| vegyraupe | of course with modifications to OP's way, but the same general idea | 04:45 |
| wejp | vegyraupe, yes, but in case of "open pandora" except the money they took for the preorders from the community, there hasn't been ver much influence on the actual product by the community | 04:46 |
| vegyraupe | wejp: as I said with modifications ;) | 04:46 |
| vegyraupe | I would see the community as the customer | 04:46 |
| vegyraupe | so the customer creates specs | 04:46 |
| wejp | not that i don't like the hardware design, i do, but still, it was only a very small group of people building a handheld console | 04:46 |
| vegyraupe | the company makes an offer | 04:46 |
| vegyraupe | and then the customer looks over it | 04:47 |
| vegyraupe | and the two parties agree to a plan | 04:47 |
| wejp | yyeah | 04:47 |
| vegyraupe | when modifications need to be made | 04:47 |
| vegyraupe | it goes back to the customer for a decission | 04:47 |
| vegyraupe | and of course the customer wouldn't pay the whole sum up front | 04:47 |
| vegyraupe | but only part of it to finance development | 04:48 |
| wejp | problem with the pandora was, it turned out to be even more expensive than what they got through the preorders | 04:48 |
| vegyraupe | i don't follow them that closely | 04:49 |
| vegyraupe | but I am sure if that happened than probably because they hadn't done anything like that before | 04:49 |
| wejp | yes | 04:50 |
| vegyraupe | and considering that, it is actually amazing what they built | 04:50 |
| wejp | of course it is | 04:50 |
| vegyraupe | i thinkit is a very good proof of concept and commendable that they even tried | 04:51 |
| wolfspraul | zear: we sold about 500 Ben so far | 04:51 |
| zear | wolfspraul, of how many in total? | 04:51 |
| wolfspraul | which is a good start, roughly in line with my estimates. Problem will be to sustain it now, which depends on improving software. | 04:51 |
| wolfspraul | zear: first batch we made 1000 | 04:51 |
| zear | i guess that's a good result? | 04:51 |
| wolfspraul | we are taking all this very carefully | 04:52 |
| wejp | oh 500 sold out of 1000 isn't bad :) | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | we are spending a lot of time to visiting vendors, digging deeper into the production process | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | well we need to sell all 1000 | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | and then the second 1000 | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | etc | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | :-) | 04:52 |
| wejp | sure :) | 04:52 |
| wolfspraul | also drive price further down | 04:52 |
| wejp | i'm sure a future nanonote version which comes with wireless included would sell much better as this seems to be what most people interested in the device complain about in the first place. i for myself would be fine with just having usb host port (preferably a type a connector on the device), but internal wireless would be nice too | 04:56 |
| wolfspraul | my current Ya NanoNote looks like Ben, but 4760 CPU, USB On-The-Go, more RAM (maximum supported by one chip), hopeRF RF module | 04:59 |
| wolfspraul | but who knows it's all moving | 04:59 |
| wolfspraul | the seeds are growing | 05:00 |
| wejp | how much RAM does the CPU support? | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | which one? | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | the goal now is to max out the Ben | 05:00 |
| wejp | the one you've chosen for the Ya | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | don't know | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | for one it support mobile DDR | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | finaly | 05:00 |
| wolfspraul | Ben has SDRAM | 05:00 |
| mortys | Hi all | 05:01 |
| wolfspraul | wejp: 'chosen' is the wrong word, we haven't chosen anything | 05:01 |
| wolfspraul | focus now is Ben | 05:01 |
| wejp | btw, the cpu speed of the ben which i would least complain about, memory bus is a little thin but cpu speed is fine | 05:01 |
| zear | what is a rf module? some sort of a wireless radio? | 05:01 |
| wolfspraul | we need to show that we can bring out the performance of the HW to the normal end user | 05:01 |
| wejp | wolfspraul: yeah, i understand, i meant just the configuration you spoke about :) | 05:01 |
| wolfspraul | zear: yes | 05:02 |
| wolfspraul | there were some mails about it on the list. just being evaluated right now, together with many other things... | 05:02 |
| wejp | so you are going with USB OTG to be able to keep the same case? | 05:02 |
| zear | yeah, read the mails already | 05:02 |
| zear | but i don't really understand the idea behind it ;) | 05:03 |
| wolfspraul | zear: what do you mean with "don't understand"? | 05:04 |
| zear | well, what it could be used for | 05:04 |
| zear | is this a well know and popular standard, that many devices use? | 05:05 |
| zear | *known | 05:05 |
| larsc | otg? | 05:06 |
| zear | on the go, can pair two otg devices without a need of usb host | 05:06 |
| larsc | no, i was wondering if you were asking about otg | 05:06 |
| wejp | not only that, you can also attach a usb slave device to a usb otg capable device | 05:07 |
| zear | no, i was asking about the RF | 05:07 |
| wejp | i was asking about otg, if it has been "chosen" to be able to keep the ben nanonote case | 05:07 |
| zear | wejp, so how is it different than a host then? | 05:07 |
| wejp | zear, it can also run as normal slave mode, and the connector is usually the small slave port, not the large type A port | 05:08 |
| zear | wejp, that means it requires a mini>normal converter | 05:08 |
| larsc | otg is basically a host and a device behind a inteligent transiver which decides which one is to use | 05:08 |
| zear | i have one and it's like 2,5cm big | 05:08 |
| wejp | zear, yes | 05:09 |
| wejp | that's why i would prefer a USB A type port on the device, but i understand if this will not be done, to keep the ben case as it is | 05:09 |
| zear | yep | 05:09 |
| vegyraupe | wejp: do you have any plans on making gmu playing videos as well? | 05:34 |
| zear | ha, that would be cool | 05:34 |
| vegyraupe | zear: +1 :) | 05:35 |
| zear | vegyraupe, but you mean a video support written from scratch, or some kind of a gui for mplayer? | 05:35 |
| vegyraupe | zear: no idea about the details :) | 05:36 |
| wejp | vegyraupe: writing a video plaer isn't a simple task, so it requires a lot of work to do that | 05:36 |
| wejp | i'm not sure yet, if i'll do that. maybe i'll put some work into videoplaying when it is mostly feature-complete from the musicplayer point of view. | 05:36 |
| zear | it is mostly feature-complete music player already :) | 05:37 |
| wejp | zear, it it mostly is, there are only a few things left, i would like to add :) | 05:37 |
| zear | :) | 05:37 |
| wejp | and if you have every looked at ffmpeg (which one could use for creating a video player), you probably know that even doing very simple things with that library are rather complicated to say at least | 05:39 |
| wejp | s/every/ever | 05:39 |
| zear | yeah, i always have to study the manual before i do anything with it | 05:39 |
| wejp | and that does not even involve putting a video on the screen yet | 05:40 |
| wejp | which also needs to be done, and it needs to be done in a fast way | 05:40 |
| Action: vegyraupe just wanted to spark the thought :) | 05:40 | |
| wejp | then, ou need to keep video and audio in sync... | 05:40 |
| wejp | hehe, yeah, that's fine :) | 05:40 |
| zear | oh, i didn't even know there's a "ffplay" | 05:41 |
| wejp | i just wanted to point out that this is a rather long way to go, if i want to do that ^^ | 05:41 |
| zear | should it be faster than mplayer? | 05:41 |
| vegyraupe | coz then one could create a "mediaplayer" which comes with gmu as the graphical interface :) | 05:41 |
| wejp | zear, not necessarily | 05:41 |
| vegyraupe | create here: build | 05:41 |
| wejp | vegyraupe that could be an option, but i don't like it that much becaue until now, Gmu is a stand-alone player that does not need an external program to play stuff | 05:42 |
| wejp | of course you need some librarries but it doesn't call external programs | 05:42 |
| vegyraupe | external programs? | 05:43 |
| zear | write your own video processing lib then :D | 05:43 |
| wejp | well, i'll think about the whole video stuff a little :) | 05:43 |
| vegyraupe | wejp: by mediaplayer I meant a physical device | 05:43 |
| wejp | zear, hehe, yeah, if i find the time to do that :D | 05:43 |
| wejp | vegyraupe, oh, ok i see :) | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | my sis bought one of these | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | sized as a cheap digi cam | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | with a screen | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | and earplugs | 05:44 |
| wejp | i agree that it would be nice to use the same interface for all media formats | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | and all it does is play videos and music | 05:44 |
| vegyraupe | and the avt2 boards and even teh ben is not too far away from that | 05:44 |
| wejp | eah | 05:45 |
| wejp | y | 05:45 |
| wejp | argh, my y button works only every second time i hit it or so | 05:45 |
| zear | vegyraupe, weird thing is, that even with ingenics patches and with an ipu, mplayer on the dingoo is really, really slow | 05:47 |
| zear | you can't play anything greater than 320x240 without lags | 05:47 |
| wejp | the video player from the default firmware isn't much better though | 05:48 |
| zear | well, mplayer has to scale everything to 320x240 anyway, but it's more convinient to just let it play a dvd quality movie than to fiddle with ffmpeg and convert it to 320x240 | 05:48 |
| vegyraupe | zear: that's not quite my department ;) | 05:48 |
| zear | :P | 05:48 |
| zear | not to mention a nononote, which has less available ram | 05:48 |
| zear | *nanonote | 05:48 |
| wejp | does the nanonote cpu even have the ipu? | 05:49 |
| zear | hmm.. no idea | 05:49 |
| wejp | it does have those SIMD instructions, but the IPU is an entirely different thing | 05:49 |
| wejp | i think only the 4740 has it not the 4720, but i could be wrong | 05:49 |
| larsc | both have it | 05:53 |
| wejp | yeah, just checked the datasheet, you are right | 05:53 |
| larsc | the only real difference between 4720 and 4740 is the form factor and the pin which are available | 05:53 |
| wejp | still, if the dingoo has problems with playing videos it will be a real challenge to get that working on the nanonote. the dingoo has twice the memory bandwith compared to the nanonote :| | 05:55 |
| wejp | d | 05:55 |
| zear | ingenics mplayer compiled for the nanonote using dingux toolchain just segfaults for me :P | 05:55 |
| wejp | mh | 05:55 |
| wejp | do you know where it segfaults? | 05:56 |
| zear | same with the binary some other guy from the community compiled and claimed it worked for his ben | 05:56 |
| tuxbrain | video conversation yummy yummy | 05:56 |
| wejp | :D | 05:56 |
| zear | wejp, nope, didn't bother bugtracing it | 05:56 |
| wejp | ok | 05:56 |
| wejp | need valgrind on the ben :D | 05:56 |
| zear | *bug tracking | 05:56 |
| zear | i heard valgrind is good, it helped my coder to track one nasty bug with the Tower of Gowno for the pacc contest | 05:57 |
| zear | we couldn't find it with either gdb or strace | 05:57 |
| wejp | yes, valgrind is a great tool | 05:57 |
| wejp | i like it much better than stupid gdb | 05:58 |
| cain__ | good morning | 09:28 |
| cain__ | I have a little question | 09:28 |
| cain__ | how can I return to console from gmenu2x? | 09:28 |
| xiangfu | cain_, CTRL + ALT + F1. | 09:30 |
| cain__ | thanks xiangfu | 09:30 |
| xiangfu | cain_, you can edit /etc/inittab. remove the "tty5/6/7/8" | 09:33 |
| xiangfu | cain_, then you can go back to gmenu2x by CTRL+ALT+F5 | 09:33 |
| xiangfu | cain_, you are welcome. | 09:34 |
| Snaker | hey would it be possible to add a Pointing stick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick to future models of the NanoNote, that would make it awesome! | 10:11 |
| wejp | i like that idea :) | 10:23 |
| zear | me too, though do we really have a place for it? | 10:24 |
| wejp | well maybe not in the middle of the keyboard, but rather above it between speaker an microphone | 10:24 |
| wejp | i would like that better than a touchscreen | 10:25 |
| zear | yeah, unless there's something on the PCB in there | 10:25 |
| zear | same | 10:25 |
| wejp | yeah, not sure if it is, but shouldn't be difficult to find out :) | 10:25 |
| darfgarf | if anyone's interested, i'll be doing a proper release of nupdf later tonight | 15:09 |
| vegyraupe | darfgarf: hui, cool | 15:11 |
| tuxbrain | darfgarf: Yay!!! I was waiting for this :) | 15:16 |
| darfgarf | sorry for taking so long, the competition judging dragged on | 15:16 |
| darfgarf | (came 9th) | 15:16 |
| tuxbrain | I have not understand a word about you have said :P | 15:17 |
| darfgarf | tha's ok XD nothing important | 15:18 |
| tuxbrain | not pushing at all, but you will do a Makefile to proper include on next distro? | 15:19 |
| zear | tuxbrain, the pacc competiton darfgarf (and me) participeted in has finished the 31th march, but the results of the contest were announced today | 15:19 |
| tuxbrain | ok :) | 15:20 |
| zear | btw, is it "on 31th" or "at 31th" or yet somehow different? :P | 15:20 |
| darfgarf | tuxbrain: maybe, but i don't know much/anything about packaging for openwrt, and it's 1 month until exams start (zear, 31st :P) | 15:20 |
| zear | so "the" wasn't needed as well? :P | 15:21 |
| darfgarf | the 31st yes | 15:21 |
| darfgarf | or you could ignore it | 15:21 |
| zear | so i was right after all, hooray for me! ;P | 15:21 |
| tuxbrain | darfgarf: Ok, just make it compile and tell us what are the dependencies, someone (maybe me) will do the work of doing the Makefile, I think this is a key piece of soft for nano | 15:22 |
| zear | i suck at prepositions :P | 15:22 |
| zear | darfgarf, owrt toolchain is a nightmare to set up | 15:23 |
| darfgarf | tuxbrain: i'll include the compile scripts i use, and also compile it statically, so it can just be dropped in and used | 15:23 |
| zear | it's not as simple as throwing it to /opt and exporthing the path | 15:23 |
| zear | btw tuxbrain, is there any pdf reader for the wiz? | 15:24 |
| darfgarf | zear: so it can wait or be done by someone else, i shouldn't even be touching it but it's the end of the week and i haven't stopped work at all | 15:24 |
| zear | i could recompile nupdf for it | 15:24 |
| darfgarf | zear: think there is | 15:24 |
| darfgarf | look up Mipdf | 15:24 |
| tuxbrain | zear, really I dont understand why you have the need of move the tolchain , it's easier to do the Makefile really | 15:25 |
| zear | darfgarf, ah, you're right | 15:25 |
| zear | tuxbrain, because i want to just export the path and run ./configure --host= --target= | 15:25 |
| zear | and with the owrt toolchain you have to manually edit the makefiles becuse libs are located in an unusual place | 15:25 |
| zear | (the whole toolchain is divided in two dirs) | 15:25 |
| tuxbrain | I supose is an advantage being an ignorant in this case, cause I 'm not used to compile in anyway , anyway is fine for me :) | 15:27 |
| zear | i might be wrong after all | 15:28 |
| zear | i hope i am and there's an easy way to set up owrt toolchain :) | 15:29 |
| darfgarf_ | meh, i'll put it as a todo at the end of a very very long list of things | 15:29 |
| zear | :P | 15:30 |
| tuxbrain | owrt is thinked to do full firmware and I think is good for that porpouse, I might recognize is not such ergonomic for individual ports, but in the long run (make things manteinable on time) I think is a better aproach | 15:31 |
| zear | yeah, i agree to that | 15:31 |
| zear | but that also means you need to set up every single new port to work with it | 15:31 |
| zear | and that takes time | 15:31 |
| darfgarf_ | and keep it compatible with the dingoo at the same time | 15:32 |
| zear | it's just a matter of a makefile | 15:32 |
| darfgarf_ | though that's just doing things in a slightly different way really | 15:32 |
| zear | if you have one single makefile for your project, it should be compatible with both the dingoo and owrt | 15:32 |
| tuxbrain | I hope we should find a way to make two words compatible | 15:32 |
| zear | just use different makefiles for dingoo and owrt | 15:33 |
| zear | we could always do a standalone owrt toolchain | 15:33 |
| zear | for easy porting | 15:33 |
| darfgarf_ | just uploaded v0.2 of nupdf to the dingoo file archive, here's the link: http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/dingoo.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,345 | 16:13 |
| tuxbrain | darfgarf:is this binary also compatible wit BNN | 16:28 |
| tuxbrain | ? | 16:28 |
| darfgarf_ | bnn? | 16:28 |
| darfgarf_ | or if you slipped and meant to put nn, then yes, nupdf is the nn version, nupdf.dge is for dingoo (keybindings are the main difference) | 16:29 |
| darfgarf_ | should just drop in and work...hopefully | 16:29 |
| tuxbrain | bnn=Ben NanoNote | 16:38 |
| darfgarf_ | ah right, i just use nn (but the answer is yes put simply) | 16:39 |
| kristianpaul | bnn = nano = ben = ... :) | 16:55 |
| kristianpaul | bien | 16:55 |
| kristianpaul | tuxbrain: what's the maximun speed you got with arduino serial stuff? | 16:55 |
| tuxbrain | I had not played with it, I just stay in the bnn defaults 57600 bps | 17:00 |
| tuxbrain | but the theorical maximum is 115200 bps | 17:02 |
| qi-commits | Carlos Camargo: Adding a simple plasma example read write char short int, adding simulations http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/622f598 | 23:23 |
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