bart416 | Fucking Web 2.0 retards | 07:48 |
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bart416 | Making everything javascript was suuuuuuuuuuuuuch a good idea | 07:48 |
horizontally | lol | 07:48 |
bart416 | now if a website doesn't respond you have no fucking clue of knowing what has happened | 07:48 |
Thetawaves | you can still look at the headers of the ajax | 07:49 |
Thetawaves | it's all the same technology | 07:49 |
bart416 | Thetawaves, that requires you to open a network monitor though | 07:49 |
Thetawaves | awwww poor baby | 07:49 |
bart416 | Something I refuse to do while browsing | 07:49 |
bart416 | their javascript doesn't make the general web browsing experience better, so when will they realise how stupid it is and trash it? | 07:50 |
Thetawaves | i dunno man | 07:50 |
Thetawaves | extjs grid is something you just can not replicate without javascript | 07:51 |
bart416 | usage of javascript != web 2.0 | 07:51 |
bart416 | Hence the "their" | 07:51 |
bart416 | Also, I'm specifically complaining about people who use the javascript to load the content | 07:52 |
bart416 | "to make more fluid page loads" | 07:52 |
bart416 | And in the process disable the back and forward buttons | 07:52 |
bart416 | cause they're too retarded to fix the functionality | 07:52 |
Thetawaves | they are stupid and doing it wrong, you can navigate with web 2.0 using back/forward | 07:52 |
Thetawaves | specifically using #anchors | 07:52 |
bart416 | Yes, but it'd still be better if they'd trash the javascript for that, and learned a thing or two about stylesheets | 07:53 |
bart416 | You can perfectly send the same type of content, encased in 2-3 xml tags | 07:53 |
bart416 | And have a stylesheet do the rest | 07:53 |
bart416 | Obviously this is hard for their tiny brains | 07:54 |
azonenberg | bart416: And you can also eliminate scripting entirely | 20:48 |
azonenberg | and use *lightweight* html, not a megabyte of layout | 20:48 |
azonenberg | and have it all server side | 20:48 |
azonenberg | The way the web was supposed to be | 20:48 |
azonenberg | i dont want to use the web for applications, or playing games, or an "experience" | 20:49 |
azonenberg | it's a bunch of documents, and I want the *text* | 20:49 |
azonenberg | its what i came there for, and anythign else is just getting in the way | 20:49 |
bart416 | well, the applications and games aren't that bad :P | 20:49 |
bart416 | they help me survive boring classes :P | 20:49 |
azonenberg | Sure they're bad | 20:49 |
azonenberg | when they leak memory as badly as facebook does? | 20:50 |
bart416 | touché | 20:50 |
azonenberg | if i have a FB tab open that i forget to close, by the end of the day my js memory usage is in the hundreds of MB | 20:50 |
azonenberg | if two or three tabs i'm pushing a gig | 20:50 |
horizontally | wow | 20:53 |
horizontally | i don't even have a full gig to use | 20:53 |
horizontally | what version of firefox do you use? | 20:53 |
azonenberg | Latest stable | 20:54 |
Action: azonenberg has 4 gigs on this, his old laptop | 20:54 | |
azonenberg | all of the new boxes are 8 or 16 | 20:54 |
azonenberg | except the i7 triple channels which are 6 and 12 | 20:55 |
horizontally | wow | 20:55 |
horizontally | boxes | 20:55 |
horizontally | you are rich | 20:55 |
azonenberg | No | 20:55 |
azonenberg | I work for rich folks :p | 20:55 |
horizontally | ah | 20:56 |
horizontally | so you use facebook at work | 20:56 |
azonenberg | And here and there they let me keep a few toys | 20:56 |
azonenberg | and not exactly | 20:56 |
horizontally | hahaha | 20:56 |
azonenberg | i did consulting | 20:56 |
azonenberg | So work and home systems were one and the same | 20:56 |
azonenberg | i have a 24U rack in the living room | 20:56 |
azonenberg | though i keep all of the compute nodes turned off when i'm not running a big job because they use a lot of power, i only have the file server on normally | 20:57 |
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