azonenberg | In any case I now have something like 60 dies in my sample tray in varying stages of processing lol | 00:10 |
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azonenberg | I expect to hit at least 100 before getting good yields | 00:10 |
azonenberg_lab | So, lets see... first thing on the todo list | 00:27 |
azonenberg_lab | Make finer probe tips | 00:27 |
azonenberg_lab | Grr... getting really sharp points is hard | 01:30 |
azonenberg_lab | I'm close, i can feel it | 01:30 |
azonenberg_lab | But i'm having trouble going submicron | 01:30 |
Harold_parker | :| | 01:59 |
Action: Harold_parker crosses fingers | 01:59 | |
azonenberg_lab | woot | 02:07 |
azonenberg_lab | this is a new record, i cant tell how sharp ye | 02:07 |
azonenberg_lab | yet* | 02:07 |
azonenberg_lab | gonna need the sem lol | 02:08 |
azonenberg_lab | optical images coming up in a sec | 02:08 |
azonenberg_lab | Its too small to see under my scope lol | 02:11 |
azonenberg_lab | the tip just fades out | 02:11 |
Harold_parker | :D | 02:17 |
Harold_parker | hahahaha | 02:17 |
Harold_parker | too small without SEM | 02:17 |
Harold_parker | thats a good sign :D | 02:17 |
Harold_parker | you doing electrolysis or arcing? | 02:17 |
azonenberg | Electrolysis | 02:22 |
azonenberg | And i think this one is barely submicron | 02:22 |
azonenberg | i *think* i can see the tip in the camera | 02:22 |
azonenberg | Which would put it around maybe 800nm? | 02:22 |
azonenberg | The tip looks to be around 1.05um diameter | 02:26 |
azonenberg | i cant see the very end | 02:26 |
azonenberg | curvature radius is probably around 500-700nm | 02:26 |
azonenberg_lab | http://i.imgur.com/3330y.jpg | 02:34 |
wolfspraul | azonenberg_lab: hey just a heads up I showed your "Intel 4004 replica" project to 2 guys from Intel Labs yesterday | 02:41 |
wolfspraul | I told them they should find someone inside Intel to support it :-) (nothing will come out of this I'm sure, but they liked it and took lots of notes...) | 02:41 |
azonenberg_lab | wolfspraul: Lol, nice | 02:42 |
Harold_parker | fuckk azonenberg that is beautiful!!!!!! | 03:07 |
azonenberg_lab | Harold_parker: ty :) | 03:08 |
Harold_parker | fuckin eh man :D | 03:09 |
Harold_parker | how many runs did it take to get that beauty? | 03:09 |
azonenberg_lab | A couple, maybe ten | 03:09 |
azonenberg_lab | All were <5um | 03:09 |
azonenberg_lab | this is the sharpest i've gotten yet | 03:09 |
Harold_parker | niiice! | 03:10 |
azonenberg_lab | The next step is a digitally controlled power supply | 03:10 |
azonenberg_lab | to automatically cut off power right when it detects the maximum sharpness right after the end breaks off | 03:10 |
Harold_parker | hmmm, not quite sure i follow? | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | in case of an accident? | 03:11 |
azonenberg_lab | No | 03:11 |
azonenberg_lab | The etching is fastest right at the surface | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | ahhhhhhhhhh | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | rght | 03:11 |
azonenberg_lab | and there's a thicker part below that | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | got it | 03:11 |
azonenberg_lab | So right when it snaps you're at max sharpness | 03:11 |
azonenberg_lab | But if you etch any further it dulls | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | got it | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | and then it blunts | 03:11 |
Harold_parker | right | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | nice :) | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | I've seen papers that did cutoff in 500ns | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | man awesome | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | and hit 3.5nm points | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | hahahahaha | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | :D | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | omfg | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | thats awesome | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | I dont want that sharp lol | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | I want maybe 200nm | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | lol indeed | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | yeh | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | But i also want to be able to dial in "give me a point of this size" | 03:12 |
azonenberg_lab | and it'll calculate how long to post-etch to do that | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | oooooh | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | nice! | 03:12 |
Harold_parker | thats a sweet idea there man | 03:13 |
Harold_parker | very very sweet! | 03:13 |
berndj | that pic looks almost like some X-15 zipping through the stratosphere | 03:14 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: You're not the first to make that comment | 03:14 |
azonenberg_lab | But its just a little small ;) | 03:14 |
berndj | does it matter if your probe is "wobbly"? i don't expect that sort of aspect ratio to give you a very stiff probe | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: Aspect ratio is somewhat variably by controlling etch rate | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | And usually it doesnt matter | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | You dont push down too hard | 03:15 |
ziper | yo | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | hi ziper | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: You just gently push it down until it makes contact | 03:15 |
azonenberg_lab | If you have coarse micropositioners like i do (designed for hitting bond pads, test points, and other >=5um targets) its a little tricky lol | 03:16 |
azonenberg_lab | Go down just a hair too far and the point bends :p | 03:16 |
azonenberg_lab | Which is why i want to make duller points for those things | 03:16 |
azonenberg_lab | The only reason i'd use such a sharp one is for an STM or similar non-contact application | 03:17 |
azonenberg_lab | So... let's see, its 23:20 here | 03:19 |
azonenberg_lab | But i have a couple more experiments to run before bedtime lol | 03:19 |
ziper | azonenberg_lab, what are practical applications of this? | 03:21 |
berndj | http://www.springerlink.com/content/pk40603604808160/fulltext.pdf | 03:22 |
azonenberg_lab | ziper: making probes? | 03:23 |
azonenberg_lab | Cheaper than buying commercial ones | 03:23 |
ziper | no, the whole process | 03:23 |
azonenberg_lab | Fun? Educational? | 03:23 |
azonenberg_lab | Because you can | 03:23 |
ziper | well, I like electronics because I can make stuff that would be very very expensive otherwise | 03:24 |
azonenberg_lab | Eventually i hope to get it to the point that any high school chemistry lab could have "build a MEMS accelerometer" as a project | 03:24 |
azonenberg_lab | CMOS is on the wishlist but will be a little harder to pull off | 03:24 |
azonenberg_lab | Rough roadmap, comb drive by end of summer | 03:24 |
berndj | http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy400w/pr.htm > Projects completed in recent years > Solid State Physics > Construction of a scanning tunneling microscope | 03:24 |
azonenberg_lab | basic logic gates by middle of next year | 03:24 |
berndj | it must've happened around 1998 or so | 03:24 |
azonenberg_lab | and a working 7400 or 4000 series chip by end of 2012 | 03:25 |
berndj | the one prof told us that they spent a whole lot of effort going high-tech on making the tip | 03:25 |
berndj | in the end they got their best tips from just breaking a piece of wire | 03:25 |
berndj | i can't find any better documentation on that project though | 03:25 |
ziper | azonenberg_lab, how mcuh did it cost for you to get this far? | 03:25 |
azonenberg_lab | After that, the next step will be to expand - stacked die MEMS+control circuit perhaps | 03:26 |
azonenberg_lab | Or go all-out on the IC front and make a 1:1 scale 4004 | 03:26 |
azonenberg_lab | ziper: Personally i've spent maybe 4-5k on the entire lab (rough guess) but its hard to say | 03:26 |
azonenberg_lab | Most of the equipment was used | 03:26 |
ziper | thats a lot | 03:26 |
azonenberg_lab | And a company i was doing consulting work for funded a lot of the general test equipment so i could make prototypes | 03:26 |
berndj | btw are you concerned at all about accidentally walking into any patent traps? | 03:26 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: For a process this ancient? Not at all | 03:27 |
berndj | well, mems is <17 years old, no? | 03:27 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: At this point I'm designing the process, not specific devices | 03:27 |
azonenberg_lab | When i start designing individual devices, maybe | 03:28 |
berndj | i thought you usanians were able to patent processes too, crazy folk over there | 03:28 |
azonenberg_lab | berndj: The point is, the processes i am using are all well established industry standards | 03:28 |
azonenberg_lab | that have been around a lot longer than 17 years | 03:28 |
berndj | cool | 03:28 |
azonenberg_lab | There may be a patent on, say, the photoresist i buy | 03:28 |
azonenberg_lab | But who cares? That's the manufacturer's problem | 03:28 |
azonenberg_lab | I just use it | 03:28 |
Action: azonenberg_lab adds 5ml beakers to shopping list | 03:30 | |
azonenberg_lab | i bought a case of ten, broke one | 03:31 |
azonenberg_lab | And i used several in my last experiment and they're sitting in the "dirty glassware" box waiting to be cleaned | 03:31 |
azonenberg_lab | So i only have three left for what i'm about to do | 03:31 |
ziper | why dont you clean them? | 03:39 |
azonenberg_lab | ziper: I give them a quick rinse right after using but a full wash in detergent + triple rinse is saved for the end of the day's work | 03:40 |
Guest29878 | I haven't cleaned my glassware yet because I'm not sure how to remove the dye I'm working with | 03:40 |
azonenberg_lab | furan: I'd try isopropanol, denatured alcohol, and acetone | 03:40 |
azonenberg_lab | probably in that order | 03:40 |
azonenberg_lab | most organic dyes will dissolve in one | 03:40 |
furan | hmm, ok | 03:41 |
azonenberg_lab | Wow, its getting hot in here... thermostat battery died, i have a hot plate going in the lab | 03:43 |
azonenberg_lab | and my server farm is running full-out doing some simulations lol | 03:43 |
furan | what software do you use? | 03:43 |
azonenberg_lab | furan: The sims are actually a chemical model using LAMMPS | 03:44 |
azonenberg_lab | consulting project unrelated to this | 03:44 |
azonenberg_lab | So in 6 mins this die will be exposed, then i can develop and try lift-off on it | 03:51 |
azonenberg_lab | I think i'll try doing really dilute hardmask (30% ish) and a couple of layers | 03:51 |
azonenberg_lab | To make sure i get a nice low-stress coating | 03:51 |
azonenberg_lab | I want a relatively thin ~200nm layer at most | 03:53 |
azonenberg_lab | the last one was much thicker, probably around 800nm, and cracked horribly | 03:53 |
azonenberg_lab | the one before that was around 75 and too thin, didnt cover it all the way | 03:53 |
azonenberg_lab | but i overcorrected | 03:54 |
azonenberg_lab | So somewhere in betwen should work nicely | 03:54 |
azonenberg_lab | Three drops looks to give good results :) | 04:10 |
azonenberg_lab | This is actually not bad resolution | 04:14 |
azonenberg_lab | Going to run another die with the same settings while i wait for the oven to warm up | 04:14 |
azonenberg_lab | That die was successful, now i am going to repeat the same process steps on several other dies | 04:26 |
azonenberg_lab | but stop a little earlier each time | 04:26 |
azonenberg_lab | Then pop the whole sequence under the SEM next week | 04:26 |
CIA-67 | homecmos r94 | trunk/lithography-tests/labnotes/azonenberg_labnotes.txt | Today's lab notes. Mostly preparing specimens for SEM imaging. | 05:08 |
bart416 | We're having the mother of all thunderstorms any second now I fear :( | 05:10 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: Why do you say that? Green sky? | 05:11 |
azonenberg_lab | And where? | 05:11 |
bart416 | Belgium | 05:11 |
bart416 | And no green sky (yet) | 05:11 |
bart416 | But we just had 5-6mm hailstones | 05:12 |
azonenberg_lab | o_o | 05:12 |
bart416 | and it's a nasty one as well | 05:13 |
bart416 | No real visual warnings | 05:13 |
bart416 | Just at a sudden you saw two leaders appear and bam, hit something | 05:13 |
azonenberg_lab | i see | 05:14 |
bart416 | all while the sky is blue-ish | 05:14 |
azonenberg_lab | We're expecting heavy rain tomorrow but nothing too bad | 05:14 |
bart416 | Well, for Europe this is pretty extreme weather | 05:14 |
azonenberg_lab | possibly a small thunderstorm | 05:14 |
azonenberg_lab | and i see | 05:14 |
azonenberg_lab | In the northeastern USA we get heavy t-storms pretty often | 05:14 |
azonenberg_lab | during summer | 05:15 |
bart416 | Forecast includes possible small twisters | 05:15 |
azonenberg_lab | o_O | 05:15 |
azonenberg_lab | We had tornado warnings here not long ago | 05:15 |
azonenberg_lab | They tend to accompany severe thunderstorm warnings | 05:16 |
azonenberg_lab | actually i think its technically a watch, not a warning | 05:16 |
azonenberg_lab | a warning is issued when a tornado is actually sighted, a watch means conditions could develop into one | 05:16 |
bart416 | We don't have a warning system for those here | 05:16 |
bart416 | In whole of West-Europe you get maybe 1 or 2 tornados per year that are worth calling tornados | 05:16 |
bart416 | The worst the others do is remove some leaves from trees | 05:17 |
azonenberg_lab | I see, lol | 05:17 |
azonenberg_lab | In central USA they're dangerously common | 05:18 |
azonenberg_lab | in the northeast, severe ones are rare but warnings occur frequently enough to be noticed | 05:18 |
bart416 | And we get maybe one storm with 12 bft. winds / year | 05:21 |
azonenberg_lab | thats what, hurricane level? | 05:21 |
azonenberg_lab | Sounds a bit boring | 05:22 |
azonenberg_lab | At least some mildly severe weather keeps things interesting | 05:22 |
azonenberg_lab | some of my friends moved to california when they graduated for the "nice weatheR" | 05:22 |
azonenberg_lab | i stay in the northeast where we actually get a decent amount of snow, rain, thunderstorms, etc | 05:22 |
bart416 | Snow we don't get much of either | 05:22 |
bart416 | Though that might be related with me only living like 12km from the sea | 05:23 |
bart416 | Ever been in a downburst btw? | 05:25 |
R0b0t1 | Snow, rain, and thunderstorms are MAN weather. | 05:25 |
bart416 | Now downbursts, that's man weather | 05:26 |
bart416 | Our gate is solid cast iron framework | 05:26 |
bart416 | attached by huge hinges | 05:27 |
bart416 | Framework has a thin sheet metal on it | 05:27 |
bart416 | Downburst picked it up and threw it accross the street :| | 05:27 |
bart416 | You need to be with 4 people to even consider lifting those things normally... | 05:27 |
R0b0t1 | wa | 05:27 |
bart416 | The smith got a bit excited, lol | 05:28 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: lol | 05:28 |
azonenberg_lab | R0b0t1: agreed | 05:28 |
bart416 | I wouldn't mind a bit more snow | 05:28 |
bart416 | Lets hope I get that scholarship, then I'll get more man weather :P | 05:28 |
azonenberg_lab | Though you have to be a bit crazy to live in a town that just got hit by a snowstorm | 05:29 |
azonenberg_lab | and, as your response, drive up north | 05:29 |
azonenberg_lab | and hike up a mountain to get even more snow :p | 05:29 |
azonenberg_lab | http://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/211250_1280772249_2906486_n.jpg | 05:29 |
bart416 | Looks about right | 05:30 |
bart416 | Is that you? :P | 05:30 |
azonenberg_lab | Yep, last fall | 05:30 |
bart416 | Fun | 05:30 |
azonenberg_lab | and which scholarship? To a US school? | 05:30 |
bart416 | Japan, lol | 05:30 |
azonenberg_lab | Ah | 05:30 |
bart416 | That's the only one available for me at the moment | 05:30 |
azonenberg_lab | Still man weather, just a different kind | 05:30 |
bart416 | Haven't finished my bachelor's degree yet | 05:30 |
azonenberg_lab | Ah, i see | 05:31 |
Action: azonenberg_lab got his a month ago | 05:31 | |
bart416 | Something about having to get your ass through Chemistry I >_> | 05:31 |
bart416 | But she makes the exam harder every damned semester | 05:31 |
Action: azonenberg_lab never took chem 1 | 05:31 | |
bart416 | It's mandatory | 05:31 |
azonenberg_lab | school of science doesnt require it at RPI, though we have to take bio | 05:31 |
bart416 | But I might get a pass this time cause I should have passed all the other exams | 05:31 |
azonenberg_lab | Engineers have to take chem though | 05:31 |
Action: bart416 is an EE student, remember :P | 05:32 | |
azonenberg_lab | yeah lol | 05:32 |
Action: azonenberg_lab realizes his radioshack brand duster spray contains a bitterant | 05:32 | |
Action: azonenberg_lab wonders if said bitterant is present in high enough concentrations to be responsible for my yield troubles | 05:32 | |
azonenberg_lab | I just assumed it was all volatiles | 05:32 |
azonenberg_lab | gonna have to get some lab-grade spray some time and see if that helps any | 05:33 |
R0b0t1 | Every dustoff has biterrant in it | 05:33 |
azonenberg_lab | if its cleanroom rated it shoudnt | 05:33 |
Action: R0b0t1 remembers this time where all his food tasted bitter and he didn't know why... | 05:33 | |
azonenberg_lab | same way lab grade ethylene glycol isnt fluorescent green etc | 05:33 |
R0b0t1 | Well, yeah. | 05:34 |
azonenberg_lab | I wouldnt mind if the stuff was purely gaseous | 05:34 |
R0b0t1 | Anything consumer, anyway | 05:34 |
azonenberg_lab | but i think it condenses on things | 05:34 |
bart416 | azonenberg, ever considered using pure nitrogen? :P | 05:34 |
azonenberg_lab | "Precision filtered to less than .2 microns." | 05:34 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: Yes, if i could get a small tank i'd do just that | 05:34 |
azonenberg_lab | rigging an inert gas setup is on the todo list | 05:35 |
azonenberg_lab | same as argon for sputtering | 05:35 |
azonenberg_lab | i want a short term solution | 05:35 |
bart416 | you could use a CO2 cartridge for an airsoft rifle maybe? | 05:35 |
bart416 | Those are rather cheap and shouldn't contain any dirt or dust | 05:35 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: Maybe, but i want a regulator or at least something to drop the pressure a bit | 05:36 |
Action: azonenberg_lab wonders why duster sprays arent just N2 | 05:36 | |
bart416 | Cause you weirdly enough can't get away with selling filtered air in cans >_> | 05:36 |
bart416 | Except if it's for diving or airsoft | 05:37 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: Pure N2, as in inert | 05:37 |
azonenberg_lab | http://www.harmonycr.com/v/vspfiles/PDF/MSDS/2510.pdf | 05:37 |
azonenberg_lab | Gonna have to pick up some of this my next order (i need more swabs and lint-free wipes some time too) | 05:38 |
azonenberg_lab | No mention of any added denatonium benzoate or similar | 05:38 |
bart416 | while you're at it, pick up some ClF3 to put in small little aluminium containers and then hide it in people's pockets? | 05:39 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: um, no thanks | 05:39 |
azonenberg_lab | a) they dont sell it | 05:39 |
azonenberg_lab | b) i dont want to get anywhere near it | 05:39 |
bart416 | c) does anybody actually know how to extinguish a fire with that stuff? | 05:40 |
bart416 | d) not really no | 05:40 |
bart416 | e) all lab safety manuals tell you to run away if something goes wrong with that | 05:40 |
azonenberg_lab | Lol, pretty much | 05:41 |
azonenberg_lab | and hmm, radioshack msds doesnt list the bitterant either | 05:41 |
azonenberg_lab | grr... why cant they include mass spec data or something as well as the hazardous ingredients list? :P | 05:42 |
azonenberg_lab | I want to know if there's something in there at 500 ppm that can mess up my project lol | 05:42 |
azonenberg_lab | But that is something worth trying | 05:42 |
bart416 | THey're not required to mention it cause the percentage is too low :P | 05:42 |
azonenberg_lab | squirt a lot of this on something and compare its properties to something not so squirted | 05:42 |
azonenberg_lab | see if any residue is visible | 05:42 |
bart416 | Don't you have a mass spectrometer over there? :P | 05:43 |
azonenberg_lab | if its just an odorant like they add to gas its fine | 05:43 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: At home? No | 05:43 |
azonenberg_lab | On campus? I'd expect several | 05:43 |
azonenberg_lab | but i dont know who runs them or how to use them | 05:43 |
bart416 | I'm going to guess the chemistry and physics department | 05:44 |
bart416 | Maybe electronics has one as well | 05:45 |
azonenberg_lab | I meant which faculty / labs | 05:45 |
azonenberg_lab | also, i dont think its the problem, i blew it on a glass slide and saw no residue | 05:45 |
bart416 | Dunno, here chemical engineering had several | 05:45 |
azonenberg_lab | now starting to suspect the stuff i saw on the thing was actually depositing from contaimination in the rinse bath | 05:46 |
azonenberg_lab | that i was drying it from | 05:46 |
bart416 | Why did I spend so much time last year helping that asshat of a girl use one of those things for a stupid report she was writing >_> | 05:46 |
bart416 | Should have sabotaged it | 05:46 |
azonenberg_lab | Lol | 05:47 |
azonenberg_lab | Was she being nasty then too? | 05:47 |
R0b0t1 | Because she has breasts, bart416. | 05:47 |
azonenberg_lab | Or being extra nice so you'd help | 05:47 |
Action: azonenberg_lab knows a female bio major who owes him a big favor after a similar situation | 05:48 | |
azonenberg_lab | .docx format file got hosed the day before the paper was due | 05:48 |
azonenberg_lab | and of course i was the one she came to to fix it | 05:48 |
azonenberg_lab | Though i had a bit of an ulterior motive, i will freely admit | 05:49 |
azonenberg_lab | i was hoping she could get me time on one of the confocal fluorescence microscopes | 05:49 |
azonenberg_lab | Well, off to sleep for me - experiments today were largely successful but that doesnt mean i have any less work to do at my day job tmrw :P | 05:55 |
CIA-67 | homecmos r95 | trunk/lithography-tests/labnotes/azonenberg_labnotes.txt | Updated lab notes for remainder of today's experiments. | 05:59 |
bart416 | <azonenberg_lab> Or being extra nice so you'd help <-- that | 06:00 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: lol | 06:00 |
azonenberg_lab | Its a survival skill any girl at an engineering school will learn | 06:00 |
bart416 | Though for me it was cause I actually liked her, not to get time on microscopes >_> | 06:00 |
azonenberg_lab | Especially a good-looking one with below average talent | 06:00 |
bart416 | The thing is, she's really smart | 06:01 |
bart416 | Way smarter than me | 06:01 |
azonenberg_lab | And in my case, she was smart and somewhat crazy | 06:01 |
bart416 | But she still asked for my help :S | 06:01 |
azonenberg_lab | And not my type | 06:01 |
azonenberg_lab | She tried to convince me to go to a *party* | 06:01 |
bart416 | I tried to convince her to go to places but she never wanted to :( | 06:01 |
azonenberg_lab | If it was somebody i liked i'd invite her over the lab :P | 06:01 |
azonenberg_lab | Somebody who appreciates that i could get along with | 06:01 |
bart416 | And the one time I did convince her a stupid friend of hers ruins it for me | 06:02 |
azonenberg_lab | i see lol | 06:02 |
bart416 | But I doubt she ever actually liked me if I look at it afterwards | 06:02 |
azonenberg_lab | Yeah, even at engineering schools there arent many people (of either gender) who are even close to my level of geekiness | 06:02 |
bart416 | But yeah, sort of hurts :( | 06:02 |
bart416 | I blend in fairly well :p | 06:02 |
Action: bart416 acts stupid most of the time | 06:03 | |
bart416 | On IRC as well >_> | 06:03 |
azonenberg_lab | If you add a "AND `gender`='f' AND `relstatus` = 'single'" to the query... | 06:03 |
azonenberg_lab | the result set shrinks even further :p | 06:03 |
bart416 | ? | 06:03 |
azonenberg_lab | sql query lol | 06:03 |
bart416 | what's the first part of the query :P | 06:04 |
azonenberg_lab | SELECT * FROM people WHERE geekiness > kGeeky*my_geekiness AND distance(location, my_location) < kDist | 06:04 |
azonenberg_lab | lol | 06:05 |
azonenberg_lab | But there are a few out there | 06:05 |
azonenberg_lab | I hear the bio department has a few female H. Sapiens in captivity being studied :P | 06:05 |
bart416 | lol | 06:06 |
azonenberg_lab | In all seriousness, a few can be found | 06:06 |
bart416 | Here as well | 06:07 |
azonenberg_lab | my "not-gf" (close female friend but we arent dating) is one, last time we were hanging out the conversation turned to gravitational fields around spinning black holes pretty quickly lol | 06:07 |
bart416 | I'll admit I wouldn't hang out with you in real life :| | 06:07 |
azonenberg_lab | Lol, thats probably true of most people here | 06:07 |
azonenberg_lab | even the CIA bot ;) | 06:08 |
bart416 | If I go to a bar with some friends I like to talk about not so serious stuff | 06:08 |
azonenberg_lab | And thats one of the things that annoys me about normal people sometimes lol | 06:08 |
bart416 | And if it goes scientific it usually involves excessive amounts of explosives | 06:08 |
azonenberg_lab | I live the stuff | 06:08 |
bart416 | You have a general geek issue | 06:08 |
azonenberg_lab | When i'm not doing my day job or consulting for a nanotech startup | 06:08 |
bart416 | I only have the math issue | 06:08 |
azonenberg_lab | I'm doing chip fab | 06:09 |
azonenberg_lab | Or coding, or CPU design | 06:09 |
azonenberg_lab | Or reading papers that I think might be useful for my thesis work | 06:09 |
bart416 | You can do that | 06:09 |
azonenberg_lab | lol | 06:09 |
azonenberg_lab | I think my brain is somewhat like a high speed electric motor | 06:10 |
azonenberg_lab | It needs to be under load all the time | 06:10 |
azonenberg_lab | or bad things happen | 06:10 |
azonenberg_lab | In the motor's case, it burns out the bearings | 06:10 |
bart416 | But in my case it usually goes like this: Get up, go for a run, breakfast, shower, study a bit or do something useful, play some computer game, lunch, do something (hopefully involving female attention), dinner, study/work a bit, watch some films or series, sleep | 06:11 |
azonenberg_lab | In my case, i invent a load P | 06:11 |
bart416 | The only thing that so far managed to block math out of my head is sitting next to a person I like :| | 06:11 |
azonenberg_lab | Even that wont do it for me lol | 06:12 |
azonenberg_lab | We end up talking math :P | 06:12 |
azonenberg_lab | Though not exclusively | 06:12 |
bart416 | Heh | 06:12 |
bart416 | My math problem is of the nature, give me anything and my head will solve it without me realising it | 06:12 |
azonenberg_lab | And my schedule... | 06:12 |
bart416 | But in doing so it seems to take resources away from other things | 06:12 |
bart416 | Bad bad resource manager! | 06:12 |
bart416 | Don't make me ctrl alt escape you! | 06:13 |
azonenberg_lab | Get up, quick breakfast+shower, walk a mile-ish up to campus, classes and research, lunch if i'm not too absorbed in my work to realize i'm hungry, homework if any, research/consulting work, quick dinner (often while reading papers or something, sometimes skipped in favor of a granola bar or something if i'm glued to my work), sleep whenever i realize what time it is | 06:14 |
bart416 | That doesn't sound all too healthy | 06:15 |
azonenberg_lab | I have a tendency to lose track of time and miss dinner or stay up way past when i should because i didnt notice how long i've been working :P | 06:15 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: And i've tried the "relaxing" thing | 06:16 |
azonenberg_lab | Just doesnt work for me | 06:16 |
azonenberg_lab | after i got my bachelor's degree i went down the shore with the family for a week | 06:16 |
azonenberg_lab | Ended up spending most of the afternoons designing masks and processes for this project | 06:16 |
azonenberg_lab | because my mind couldn't stand being idle | 06:16 |
bart416 | That's what you get female friends for o_O | 06:17 |
bart416 | They'll drag you along and force you to have fun anyway | 06:17 |
azonenberg_lab | bart416: Depends on the type | 06:17 |
bart416 | ok, the type I like :P | 06:17 |
azonenberg_lab | The one i was talking about is a rabid MMO player :P | 06:17 |
bart416 | Know some of those but they're usually fat and ugly | 06:18 |
azonenberg_lab | She's a bit above average but far from fat and distinctly cute lol | 06:18 |
azonenberg_lab | Was quite suprised to hear she was a diehard RPGer | 06:18 |
azonenberg_lab | Then again, first glance at me IRL would probably not give the impression of a guy with a chip foundry in his living room | 06:19 |
azonenberg_lab | especially if i happen to be talking about some other equally technical but unrelated subject | 06:20 |
azonenberg_lab | Oh, and the other geeky female friend i have? EE masters student doing her thesis work on sputtering | 06:21 |
bart416 | heh | 06:21 |
azonenberg_lab | and if i can convince her to tear herself away from the fancy RF sputtering rig in her lab for a little while and help debug mine... | 06:22 |
azonenberg_lab | Maybe i can get working metal deposition by next year | 06:22 |
bart416 | lol | 06:22 |
azonenberg_lab | though first things first, i need an argon tank and a roughing pump | 06:22 |
azonenberg_lab | And before that, probably some sleep :P | 06:23 |
azonenberg_lab | afk | 06:23 |
bart416 | heh | 06:25 |
bart416 | 'nite I guess | 06:25 |
B0101 | hi | 12:57 |
berndj | spinning black holes are creepy | 22:29 |
SolidRaven | berndj, so are you :P | 22:30 |
berndj | at least i'm uncharged | 22:30 |
azonenberg | woo, i'm getting on the SEM thursday | 22:53 |
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