| B0101 | Hi | 01:27 |
|---|---|---|
| azonenberg_lab | Hi | 01:27 |
| azonenberg_lab | Playing with making probe tips still | 01:27 |
| azonenberg_lab | They're all decently shapr but getting really fine points is tricky | 01:27 |
| Action: azonenberg_lab needs to make a controller board | 01:27 | |
| B0101 | ooh... | 01:28 |
| azonenberg_lab | i can easily hit 2.5um tips, 1.5 is doable under good conditions | 01:29 |
| azonenberg_lab | but i want like 500nm | 01:29 |
| B0101 | hmm.... | 01:31 |
| B0101 | WTH??? Copyright claim???? For MY lab notes???? | 01:32 |
| azonenberg_lab | ? | 01:33 |
| azonenberg_lab | Someone else is claiming your notes are infringing something? | 01:33 |
| B0101 | Yup | 01:33 |
| azonenberg_lab | o_O | 01:33 |
| azonenberg_lab | Where did you have them posted? | 01:34 |
| B0101 | I only keep them in a Member accessible web site | 01:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | Lol | 01:34 |
| B0101 | Now its been taken down | 01:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | wtf... file a counterclaim | 01:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | Did they provide detail as to the exact offending material or just say "the whole site" | 01:35 |
| B0101 | They told me the file name is: lab_paper_1.pdf | 01:35 |
| B0101 | If I am not mistaken: THAT was notes that I taken from MY EXPERIMENT | 01:36 |
| B0101 | I am told nothing else... | 01:36 |
| B0101 | I am not even told who the claimant is!!! | 01:37 |
| azonenberg_lab | Is this from your web host or what? | 01:37 |
| B0101 | From my web host.... | 01:37 |
| azonenberg_lab | Who is US based i assume? | 01:37 |
| B0101 | its an SG web host | 01:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | well if its a DMCA claim there is a specifically formatted response to a takedown request, saying you do not believe the content is infringing | 01:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | Which is risky if it IS, because you open yourself to a lawsuit - but if the claimant does not file a suit within a few weeks the content must be restored | 01:39 |
| B0101 | azonenberg_lab: This isn't the first time.... | 01:43 |
| azonenberg | B0101: What? | 01:43 |
| azonenberg | They've done it before? | 01:43 |
| B0101 | I created a encryption program 2 years ago... they took it down because of a copyright claim | 01:43 |
| azonenberg | But they didnt tell you the claimant? | 01:44 |
| azonenberg | Thats pretty messed up | 01:44 |
| B0101 | They never | 01:44 |
| azonenberg | Time to find a new web host IMO | 01:44 |
| azonenberg | One that will actually tell you who's making the claim and give you a fair fight | 01:44 |
| azonenberg | They are obligated to take it down immediately on recieving the notice no matter what | 01:45 |
| azonenberg | But they should give you the opportunity to make a counterclaim | 01:45 |
| B0101 | I know... I have prepared the backup.... | 01:45 |
| B0101 | and I will move ASAP | 01:45 |
| azonenberg | DMCA claims have a history of being abused | 01:45 |
| azonenberg | i think ars technica or wired had their facebook page shut down after a DMCA claim | 01:46 |
| azonenberg | And it took them quite a while to get it back up | 01:46 |
| B0101 | which sucks... | 01:46 |
| azonenberg | fb didnt even tell them what the offending content was or who had filed the claim | 01:46 |
| B0101 | sucks even more | 01:46 |
| B0101 | Singapore ISP's will do anything to prevent you from hosting a server at your home.... | 01:47 |
| azonenberg | even in the USA there are problems with that | 01:48 |
| azonenberg | But usually they dont block odd high ports | 01:48 |
| azonenberg | Just well known ones | 01:48 |
| azonenberg | Still, its annoying enough that I plan to move my main server to an offsite datacenter soon | 01:48 |
| B0101 | My ISP made sure that all their clients share the ISP's gateway server's External IP | 01:49 |
| azonenberg | They're using NAT? | 01:49 |
| B0101 | Yup | 01:49 |
| azonenberg | Which to me probably means they're out of ip addresses | 01:49 |
| azonenberg | and are too lazy to deploy v6 | 01:49 |
| B0101 | up | 01:49 |
| B0101 | *yup | 01:49 |
| B0101 | and there are only 3 ISP's here in singapore | 01:50 |
| azonenberg | And they all collaborate to ensure insanely high prices etc? | 01:50 |
| B0101 | this is my second ISP... | 01:50 |
| B0101 | yup | 01:50 |
| B0101 | And I am tired with their lies... | 01:51 |
| B0101 | Service: Not good, Prices: REALLY HIGH!!! | 01:51 |
| azonenberg | lol, sounds typical of most companies in telecom these days | 01:52 |
| B0101 | My ISP had a lot of downtimes... | 01:52 |
| B0101 | and they blamed it on my router.... my server... my whatever | 01:52 |
| azonenberg | My home isp has trouble too, which is why i am moving my servers offsite | 01:52 |
| azonenberg | To a proper datacenter on a 100mbit pipe | 01:52 |
| azonenberg | With i think four or five nines uptime guaranteed | 01:53 |
| B0101 | my ISP told me that i will have a 1 Gigabyte per second speed | 01:53 |
| B0101 | Not kiddinf | 01:53 |
| azonenberg | :P | 01:53 |
| B0101 | *kidding | 01:53 |
| azonenberg | I've been on *real* gigabit pipes | 01:53 |
| azonenberg | They're nice | 01:53 |
| B0101 | but my speed is about 1MBPS | 01:54 |
| azonenberg | Fastest speedtest i ever hit was 250 Mbps down and 150 up | 01:54 |
| azonenberg | And i think the test server was the bottleneck | 01:54 |
| B0101 | My speed test: download speed = 6.50 down | 01:54 |
| azonenberg | This is on campus in a lab thoguh | 01:54 |
| azonenberg | At home i get horrible speeds | 01:54 |
| B0101 | Now I am watching a show similar to Good morning America | 01:57 |
| B0101 | Ah 2012 B.S | 01:59 |
| B0101 | they don't need to show it on TV | 01:59 |
| B0101 | hows your mask experiment by the way??/ | 02:02 |
| azonenberg | B0101: Not doing mask stuff today | 02:22 |
| azonenberg | Probe fab | 02:22 |
| azonenberg | And right now i'm actually battling one of my servers which doesnt seem to want to talk to me over the network | 02:23 |
| azonenberg | Seems to be booting, i hear the POST beep | 02:23 |
| azonenberg | and am not in the mood to haul one of my monitors across the house to debug it | 02:23 |
| azonenberg_lab | hi Harold_parker | 02:28 |
| Harold_parker | sup azonenberg_lab | 02:28 |
| Harold_parker | how goes mate? | 02:28 |
| Harold_parker | :) | 02:28 |
| azonenberg_lab | As of now? Getting annoyed with one of my servers | 02:28 |
| azonenberg_lab | its having trouble booting for reasons unknown and i'm not in the mood to drag out a monitor to debug | 02:29 |
| Harold_parker | :( | 02:29 |
| Harold_parker | serial? | 02:29 |
| azonenberg_lab | I wish | 02:30 |
| azonenberg_lab | if it actually had an external port... | 02:30 |
| Harold_parker | aahhh damn :( | 02:31 |
| azonenberg_lab | Just dragged my roommate's one out, he left his door open :P | 02:31 |
| azonenberg_lab | Now i need to find power | 02:31 |
| Harold_parker | heheheh | 02:31 |
| azonenberg_lab | hey, its fair... he's gone for the weekend and wont miss it | 02:32 |
| azonenberg_lab | and he uses my tools all the time :P | 02:32 |
| Harold_parker | hehehe | 02:33 |
| Harold_parker | i'm sure he'd be honoured | 02:33 |
| Harold_parker | honored | 02:33 |
| Harold_parker | lol | 02:33 |
| azonenberg_lab | wow, this thing is still on ubuntu 9.04 | 02:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | i havent used it in so long lol | 02:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | its been unplugged for the last few months since i pulled the power supply to test another box | 02:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | And never bothered to put it back in | 02:34 |
| azonenberg_lab | The thing uses soooo much electricity i dont use it unless i need the horsepower lol | 02:35 |
| Harold_parker | haha yeah | 02:35 |
| Harold_parker | and they'rre so damn noisy too! | 02:35 |
| azonenberg_lab | Actually, this one is quite quiet | 02:35 |
| azonenberg_lab | the rest of my rack is several times louder | 02:35 |
| azonenberg_lab | The problem with this one is it costs $200ish a month to keep running :P | 02:36 |
| azonenberg_lab | 2x 1kW power supplies will do that to you | 02:37 |
| Harold_parker | yikes!! | 02:37 |
| Harold_parker | yeh i've seriously wondered at the possibility of pulling the case open | 02:37 |
| Harold_parker | and ditching the high power psus | 02:37 |
| Harold_parker | if its kept cool enough maybe all those fans are a waste of power? | 02:37 |
| azonenberg_lab | WIth this box? Not a chance | 02:38 |
| Harold_parker | ahh damn | 02:38 |
| Harold_parker | whats in it? | 02:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | quad core amd (sucky, i want a new mobo with an i7) | 02:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | 16gb ddr2 | 02:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | and four tesla c1060 | 02:38 |
| azonenberg_lab | Its in a tower case since we couldnt find a rack case that could hold four double-width gpus :P | 02:39 |
| Harold_parker | ooooooh | 02:39 |
| Harold_parker | sexeeeeeeh | 02:39 |
| Harold_parker | how are those tesla's treating you? | 02:39 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:39 |
| azonenberg_lab | I want C2xxx | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | are they what sucks all the juice? | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | yeah | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | srsly | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | the 1xxx are nice but they dont have any L1 cache | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | ewwww | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | weak | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | I have a box in my office thats a 4U | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | i7, 12gb ddr3 | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | and 2x gtx 480 | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | noice | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | Right now its operating at reduced capacity due to a dying PSU (lost a 12V rail or two) but the spare arrives tomorrow | 02:40 |
| Harold_parker | :( | 02:40 |
| azonenberg_lab | then i have another 4U job at home on the rack that's only 6GB ram, i7, and a geforce 9500 (mostly a file server) | 02:41 |
| azonenberg_lab | and two more 2U compute nodes, each with a geforce 9800, core2quad, 8gb ddr2 | 02:41 |
| azonenberg_lab | Not a bad cluster for a home rack | 02:41 |
| Harold_parker | wow | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | fuckin nice man | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:42 |
| azonenberg_lab | in fact, when the CS department had an outage recently i offered my advisor's research group accounts on the rack lol | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | what have you been throwing at it? | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | hahaha | 02:42 |
| azonenberg_lab | Two or three of the guys were running simulations on it for a while | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | nice | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | awesome | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | were they pleased? | 02:42 |
| azonenberg_lab | My boxes had good uptime | 02:42 |
| azonenberg_lab | so yeah :P | 02:42 |
| Harold_parker | haha noice | 02:43 |
| Harold_parker | what kind of sims were they running | 02:43 |
| azonenberg_lab | They actually had moved from the department machines to a single server i admin for my advisor earlier | 02:43 |
| azonenberg_lab | because the dept boxes were on a flaky raid file server | 02:43 |
| azonenberg_lab | That box was then knocked out by a PSU failure | 02:43 |
| azonenberg_lab | So while we waited for the spare to arrive i let them use my rack | 02:43 |
| Harold_parker | hah nice | 02:43 |
| azonenberg_lab | And i'm not sure, i'm not in that research group (data mining) | 02:44 |
| azonenberg_lab | the two groups i'm involved in are graphics (summer research assistantship) and security (which i'm doing my thesis work in) | 02:44 |
| Harold_parker | oooh cool | 02:44 |
| Harold_parker | nice mate :D | 02:44 |
| Harold_parker | whats the thesis topic? | 02:44 |
| azonenberg_lab | Personally, i got the cluster for an outside consulting job i was doing last year (molecular dynamics modeling) | 02:44 |
| Harold_parker | wafer RE ?? >:D >:D >:D | 02:44 |
| azonenberg_lab | The guy just got back to me and said he needed more sims done which is why i'm firing up this compute node, which had been gathering dust | 02:45 |
| Harold_parker | noice | 02:45 |
| azonenberg_lab | I normally keep the file server and one of the 2U jobs up all the time and WoL the others if i need more computing power | 02:45 |
| Harold_parker | will they help with the cots? | 02:45 |
| Harold_parker | costs | 02:45 |
| azonenberg_lab | Yeah | 02:45 |
| Harold_parker | aye nice | 02:45 |
| azonenberg_lab | and my thesis topic is still a little up in the air as i only entered the phd program three weeks ago :P | 02:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | But it will be something related to cpu-level security | 02:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | probably at the archiecture level with prototyping and testing of threat models on FPGAs | 02:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | Right now RE is purely a hobby | 02:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | though in a few years, with a lot of hobby-level RE under my belt plus a dissertation on embedded security, you never know lol | 02:47 |
| azonenberg_lab | On the topic of RE - http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-22/S7300913.JPG | 02:48 |
| azonenberg_lab | here it is at 40x http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-22/S7300914.JPG | 02:48 |
| azonenberg_lab | And 400x http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-22/S7300916.JPG | 02:48 |
| azonenberg_lab | tip curvature radius is around 1.5 microns i estimate | 02:48 |
| Harold_parker | ooooh | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | nice man :D | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | very very nic e:D | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | holy fuck | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | that is TIGHt | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | jesus fuck | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | pro :D | 02:50 |
| Harold_parker | did you order that? | 02:50 |
| azonenberg_lab | Heck no | 02:50 |
| azonenberg_lab | homebrewed | 02:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | electrochemical etching of 406um tungsten wire in 20% KOH at 3VDC | 02:51 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | I need to refine the process, the next few i did werent quite as sharp (maybe 2-3um radius) | 02:51 |
| Harold_parker | doooood | 02:51 |
| Harold_parker | this is super pro! | 02:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | Gonna pop some under the SEM soon to see how they look up close | 02:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | and get more accurate measurements | 02:51 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 02:51 |
| Harold_parker | how did you refine the tip to that sharp point :O | 02:52 |
| Harold_parker | ? | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | Woo, the tesla box is now online (just wanted to fsck after a long time offline) | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | Welcome to GLaDOS, motivating coders with premium quality cake since 1986. | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | This system is equipped with 4x nVidia Tesla C1060, a 3.0 GHz quad-core AMD | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | processor (Phenom II x4 940) and 16GB ram. | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | 3.73 teraflops peak performance (single-precision). | 02:52 |
| Harold_parker | hehehe | 02:52 |
| Harold_parker | noice :) | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | root@glados:~# lspci | grep Tesla | wc -l | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | 4 | 02:52 |
| azonenberg_lab | And they're all there, i've had issues with loose cards causing some of them to not show up | 02:53 |
| Harold_parker | hahahahaa | 02:53 |
| Harold_parker | <-- jelly | 02:53 |
| Harold_parker | oh dang | 02:53 |
| azonenberg_lab | Actually its not loose *cards* | 02:53 |
| azonenberg_lab | its the pcie power connectors | 02:53 |
| Harold_parker | ? | 02:53 |
| Harold_parker | ahhh | 02:53 |
| azonenberg_lab | anyway so the tip was electrolytically etched | 02:54 |
| Harold_parker | so the tip is define by anode position? | 02:55 |
| Harold_parker | fuck i wish i knew my chemistry :( | 02:55 |
| azonenberg_lab | The tip is the anode, and the mechanism for sharpening is a mix of bubbles being dragged along the sides by surface tension | 02:56 |
| azonenberg_lab | and etch products falling down | 02:56 |
| Harold_parker | ooooh | 02:57 |
| Harold_parker | awesome man :D | 02:57 |
| Harold_parker | thats fuckin awesome | 02:57 |
| azonenberg_lab | You saw my lift-off patterning test i assume? | 02:58 |
| Harold_parker | probably, i've been away for 1.5 weeks | 02:58 |
| Harold_parker | so if it was before then?? | 02:58 |
| Harold_parker | i remember some tests just before i went away | 02:58 |
| azonenberg_lab | http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-22/S7300903.JPG | 02:59 |
| Harold_parker | and you were mapping edge characteristics | 02:59 |
| azonenberg_lab | This was after baking, it looked better before | 02:59 |
| azonenberg_lab | hardmask was too thick and it cracked | 02:59 |
| Harold_parker | ooooooh | 02:59 |
| azonenberg_lab | after the etch it disintegrated | 02:59 |
| Harold_parker | still, looks nice man | 02:59 |
| Harold_parker | whats the scale? | 02:59 |
| azonenberg_lab | http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-19/S7300899.JPG was before baking | 02:59 |
| azonenberg_lab | lines in the font are around 20um | 03:00 |
| azonenberg_lab | I didnt have my calibrated camera set up for these shots | 03:00 |
| azonenberg_lab | just my point&shoot on the eyepiece | 03:00 |
| Harold_parker | :O | 03:00 |
| Harold_parker | dude this is awesome | 03:00 |
| Harold_parker | so that fullstop would be like...4um | 03:01 |
| Harold_parker | ? | 03:01 |
| azonenberg_lab | The lines are 20um wide | 03:01 |
| azonenberg_lab | I was using a large process size for debugging | 03:01 |
| Harold_parker | nice | 03:01 |
| azonenberg_lab | i can hit 5um lines in photoresist on a good day but the rest of the process isnt able to keep up | 03:02 |
| Harold_parker | ahhh yes | 03:02 |
| Harold_parker | i see | 03:02 |
| azonenberg_lab | (yet) | 03:02 |
| azonenberg_lab | TODO for the weekend lol | 03:03 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 03:03 |
| Harold_parker | excellent | 03:03 |
| azonenberg_lab | I want to get a pattern of some sort, even if on a giant 50um process, etched in <100> Si with KOH and Ta2O5 hardmask | 03:03 |
| azonenberg_lab | Once i get adequate yields in that, i can start shrinking | 03:03 |
| Harold_parker | yeah nice | 03:05 |
| Harold_parker | by yields you mean resolution? | 03:05 |
| azonenberg_lab | no, i mean things not chipping off in the etch and giving me blank dies :P | 03:06 |
| Harold_parker | ahh yep | 03:06 |
| Harold_parker | what do you think is causing that? | 03:06 |
| azonenberg_lab | In that one? Hardmask was too thick | 03:07 |
| azonenberg_lab | The problem is that the hardmask is spin coated over photoresist (lift off process) in an ethanol solution | 03:07 |
| azonenberg_lab | my photoresist is slightly soluble in ethanol | 03:07 |
| azonenberg_lab | as you can probably imagine that doesnt end well :P | 03:07 |
| azonenberg_lab | Workaround is to drop the hardmask on and immediately spin up really fast | 03:08 |
| azonenberg_lab | but that reduces consistency and its easy to get too thin or thick a layer | 03:08 |
| azonenberg_lab | I have ideas but havent experimented with them yet | 03:08 |
| Harold_parker | ahhh yep | 03:13 |
| Harold_parker | i getcha | 03:13 |
| Harold_parker | nice | 03:13 |
| Harold_parker | i'll be eager to see what you find | 03:13 |
| CIA-67 | homecmos r91 | trunk/lithography-tests/labnotes/azonenberg_labnotes.txt | Today's lab notes. | 03:20 |
| azonenberg_lab | Hmm, this should be fun | 03:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | going to try soldering one of these probes to a copper wire | 03:46 |
| azonenberg_lab | and using it | 03:46 |
| Harold_parker | nice!! | 03:50 |
| Harold_parker | how's it performing? | 03:50 |
| Harold_parker | using on decapped? | 03:50 |
| azonenberg_lab | Going to, yes | 03:50 |
| azonenberg_lab | i have a 12f683 i pwned a while ago with uv | 03:50 |
| azonenberg_lab | gonna pop it in a breadboard and see how it goes | 03:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | just have to get firmware on it | 03:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | i'll just be hitting bond pads as thats what i intended thse probes for | 03:51 |
| azonenberg_lab | but if that works i'll go to town :P | 03:51 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 03:53 |
| Harold_parker | yeah man | 03:54 |
| Harold_parker | fuckin nice!! | 03:54 |
| Action: azonenberg fires up vmware box with mplab on it | 03:58 | |
| azonenberg | gaah, i have too many vms | 04:01 |
| azonenberg | cant remember which one it is :p | 04:01 |
| azonenberg | Here we go *looks at blinking light* | 04:03 |
| Harold_parker | heheheh | 04:07 |
| azonenberg | lets make this a bit slower so i can probe it with something slow | 04:09 |
| Action: azonenberg lacks a working DSO atm | 04:09 | |
| azonenberg | on the to-get list | 04:09 |
| azonenberg_lab | Setting it up... here goes | 04:20 |
| azonenberg_lab | aww, bent the tip | 04:25 |
| azonenberg_lab | Even bent, its more than sharp enough to hit the target though | 04:25 |
| azonenberg | Pics coming soon | 04:36 |
| azonenberg | Harold_parker: http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-24/S7300935.JPG | 04:49 |
| azonenberg | I dont have a proper illuminator so i just used the lamp | 04:49 |
| azonenberg | There were some shadowing issues but it worked decently well | 04:49 |
| azonenberg | here's a close up of the chuck area with the breadboard on it http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-24/S7300936.JPG | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | awwwwwwwa awww awww awwwwwwww yeah :D | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | bwhahahaha | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | nice man | 04:50 |
| azonenberg | http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-24/S7300937.JPG moving the probe into place | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | that looks | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | fuckin awesome :D | 04:50 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 04:50 |
| azonenberg | and http://colossus.cs.rpi.edu/~azonenberg/images/homecmos/2011-06-24/S7300939.JPG is hitting it at 60x | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | noice | 04:51 |
| azonenberg | Bad lighting but you can see i'm htiting the pad | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | oh yeah | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | bwhahaha | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | fuckin nice mate!! | 04:51 |
| Harold_parker | this is so cool | 04:51 |
| azonenberg | this is the most my scope can hit atm (stereozoom 4, 3x objective * 20x eyepiece = 60x) | 04:51 |
| azonenberg | i'll be doubling it with a better objective shortly | 04:52 |
| azonenberg | But since the intended purpose of the unit is wafer test and not RE i should be fine | 04:52 |
| azonenberg | When i have the budget for an FS60, of course, all bets are off :P | 04:52 |
| Harold_parker | :D | 04:52 |
| azonenberg | *drools at thought of 100x LWD objective* | 04:52 |
| Harold_parker | nice | 04:52 |
| azonenberg | And its not like i need to probe the 683 anyway lol | 04:52 |
| Harold_parker | i suppose you can attain soooome digital zooming with enough res in the photos? | 04:52 |
| azonenberg | its easy to pwn with uv | 04:52 |
| Harold_parker | 683? | 04:53 |
| Harold_parker | ahh nice | 04:53 |
| Harold_parker | the pic? | 04:53 |
| Harold_parker | awesome | 04:53 |
| azonenberg | Yeah, i did it a few months ago on the other die from this same batch | 04:53 |
| azonenberg | Note how overkill this needle is for this magnification though lol | 04:53 |
| azonenberg | i need more zoom to even see the tip :p | 04:53 |
| Harold_parker | ahhhh yeh serious | 04:54 |
| Harold_parker | for interior proving it might be good though? | 04:54 |
| Harold_parker | *probing | 04:54 |
| azonenberg | The intention is wafer test | 04:54 |
| Harold_parker | oh yeah!! | 04:54 |
| Harold_parker | :d | 04:54 |
| Last message repeated 1 time(s). | 04:54 | |
| azonenberg | hitting bond pads for the customer's new gadget to see if it works | 04:54 |
| azonenberg | before wasting time and $$ packaging them up | 04:55 |
| azonenberg | And i've hit targets of the same size on the 683 so its definitely adequate | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | aye yep | 04:55 |
| azonenberg | Conveniently that also means it's good enough for testing my devices too ;) | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | ahhh nice | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | ahaha yes | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | indeed :D | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | quite so!! | 04:55 |
| azonenberg | Best part? Client paid for it so the whole rig cost me nothing | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | bwhahahahaha | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | now that is gold | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | what is the product/ | 04:55 |
| Harold_parker | ? | 04:55 |
| azonenberg | NDA, sorry | 04:56 |
| Harold_parker | hah nice | 04:56 |
| Harold_parker | ;) | 04:56 |
| Harold_parker | how much was that micropositioner? | 05:01 |
| azonenberg | 125 a pop | 05:02 |
| azonenberg | on ebay | 05:02 |
| Harold_parker | nice! | 05:02 |
| azonenberg | Dirt cheap as they go, i wasnt expecting a S926 or similar lol | 05:02 |
| Harold_parker | heheh | 05:02 |
| azonenberg | its rated for 5um targets so my tips are already several times more precise than it needs | 05:02 |
| Harold_parker | awesome | 05:03 |
| azonenberg | Doesnt stop me from wanting to do better of course | 05:04 |
| Harold_parker | ;) | 05:15 |
| berndj | i didn't know that the DMCA applied in singapore | 13:43 |
| bart416 | berndj, it doesn't as far as I know | 13:54 |
| berndj | which is why i don't get how B0101 was getting DMCA takedown notices on his singapore host? | 14:02 |
| bart416 | oh they try | 14:02 |
| bart416 | They try hard | 14:02 |
| bart416 | Mind you, if you live in the SU they'll still try to get to you | 14:02 |
| bart416 | I mean I live in Belgium, and I get DMCA notices for a server in Sweden... | 14:03 |
| bart416 | They don't even bother to check the country you live in | 14:03 |
| berndj | azonenberg, sorry to keep harping on about that uni STM project, but IIRC they (he?) made their probe by just pulling a lamp filament until it broke; with near certainty the break site would have a 1-atom tip *somewhere* | 14:03 |
| bart416 | They just send the DMCA notices and threaten to sue | 14:03 |
| berndj | so ray gordon of them! | 14:03 |
| bart416 | They usually shut up after you tell them you live outside the US | 14:04 |
| bart416 | well for a week at least | 14:04 |
| bart416 | Now I have a mail filter that redirects all mails with DMCA or the common takedown template to /dev/null | 14:04 |
| bart416 | Saves me time and worries | 14:05 |
| berndj | you should get them on SORBS | 14:05 |
| bart416 | lol | 14:05 |
| berndj | mindboggling that he got takedown notice on his own lab notes! | 14:06 |
| bart416 | oh fun | 14:06 |
| bart416 | At least in our case it's somewhat logical that they try to push DMCA takedown notices for DCC servers >_> | 14:06 |
| berndj | i thought sending fake takedown notices was a pretty serious offence | 14:06 |
| bart416 | What was in the lab notes? | 14:06 |
| bart416 | linky to them please | 14:07 |
| berndj | i dunno what B0101 is up to | 14:07 |
| bart416 | Wouldn't be amazed if some publisher tried it | 14:07 |
| bart416 | If there's a solution to one of their exercises in it | 14:07 |
| bart416 | They did the same thing with students making answer databases in the US | 14:08 |
| berndj | it's a good reason to officially register your copyrights - then statutory (rather than just actual) damages kick in | 14:08 |
| berndj | that rings a bell... schaum's outline series maybe? | 14:08 |
| bart416 | Nah, not schaum's | 14:08 |
| bart416 | Schaum's doesn't seem to give a fuck | 14:08 |
| berndj | hmm. but i vaguely recall something about schaum's too | 14:09 |
| bart416 | We published all the solutions to every single question in schaum's outline of signals and systems on the internet somewhere | 14:09 |
| bart416 | We never got a single response on it | 14:09 |
| bart416 | In fact most people don't even bother to check it (even those that need it) | 14:09 |
| berndj | maybe they have sane / ethical lawyers and/or same for execs | 14:10 |
| berndj | this whole patent / copyright trolling this is so dirty | 14:10 |
| berndj | i'm really glad i don't live in a very litigous society | 14:10 |
| Action: bart416 can't wait to get a DMCA takedown notice for http://ieatbirds.info/mechanica2.pdf | 14:11 | |
| berndj | i keep telling azonenberg he should come do his work in .za then he can just pour used HF et al straight down the sink :) | 14:12 |
| bart416 | Or maybe for http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27788352/Mechanica%20II_%20Thermodynamica%20Oefeningen.pdf | 14:12 |
| bart416 | That's more DMCA worthy since that are solved exercises | 14:12 |
| bart416 | lol | 14:12 |
| bart416 | I should really get around to scanning in all my old notes and exercises and putting them online | 14:12 |
| bart416 | berndj, who would want to live in .za :p | 14:14 |
| berndj | heh. meh, i like it here | 14:14 |
| bart416 | Dunno, my current plan is to work for about 30-40 years and then move to some desolated place in vietnam or something like that | 14:15 |
| berndj | if you believe in those climate models i saw a map yesterday that suggested you'd want to invest in uruguay | 14:16 |
| bart416 | My problem with Africa is the average mentality of the people who live there | 14:17 |
| berndj | yeah, african states have this predatory tendency | 14:17 |
| bart416 | More like lazy | 14:17 |
| bart416 | Pretty much all the Africans who move here seem to care about two things: Living of social security and screwing 5 women at once | 14:18 |
| bart416 | And for every single one of them that isn't like that, there are 50 who are | 14:19 |
| berndj | haha, where is this "here" btw? | 14:19 |
| bart416 | Belgium | 14:19 |
| bart416 | They're really fucking up our social security system the way they're acting | 14:19 |
| berndj | we get some of that too - ppl coming here from all over the rest of africa, but we seem to attract mostly the industrious subset | 14:20 |
| bart416 | Heh, for me the contrast is even bigger | 14:20 |
| berndj | which breeds envy, and sporadically erupts into a variation of kristallnacht | 14:20 |
| bart416 | I live in a small village where over half the population is made up out of asian immigrants... | 14:20 |
| berndj | anyway labour is fairly cheap here | 14:22 |
| bart416 | Most labour got shipped off to east europe, heh | 14:22 |
| berndj | so when we dig a new cable route we do it with a line of 50 men, not a single backhoe in sight | 14:22 |
| bart416 | Heh | 14:23 |
| berndj | hmm, electronics + cheap labour: i wonder if anyone's ever tried building a human computer | 14:23 |
| berndj | like a relay computer, but using humans as the switching elements | 14:23 |
| bart416 | Lets try it! | 14:23 |
| bart416 | Just duct tape them to a wall | 14:23 |
| bart416 | and if they make mistakes they don't get food for a day | 14:24 |
| berndj | ok, just get 2000 people on a football field, we can build a 4004 | 14:24 |
| berndj | would you treat a transistor like that??? | 14:24 |
| berndj | there are now more transistors than ants | 14:25 |
| berndj | any i gtg buy some tomatoes before the shop closes | 14:25 |
| bart416 | <berndj> would you treat a transistor like that??? <-- lazy people who don't contribute to society are less than ants for me | 14:44 |
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